They didn't think through the Garrisons end when WoD is gone.

[Deleted]

The garrison system is designed to give rewards and it's designed to give them without doing anything at all whatsoever once you have developed the utility already other than clicking on queues and queuing items and missions, and most current players have already developed their garrison.

But at the same time you can't just kill the garrison completely. People would want to do achievements in the future or get items it dropped. Unless they try to combat the obsession with achievement points and remove them completely, turn them into feats, but I very much doubt it.

So what are they going to do? Completely remove all rewards other than those giving achievements? Or those giving a mount? And if you do that, wouldn't it make the Garrisons dull? And isn't the time sink on Garrisons too big to be promoted to exist in future expansions to begin with?

[oldgeezer]

They did, they are going to nerf the gold shit

Have you got a source for this, or is just speculation at this stage?

(I wouldn't be surprised if this happened, but I've yet to see it confirmed)

[Daetur]

Yeah, I agree with Bjoramier. I expect they'll remove or significantly nerf the gold rewards, and leave the other rewards as-is, perhaps adding another way to obtain the Heirloom items in current content.

[Seefer]

Have you got a source for this, or is just speculation at this stage?

(I wouldn't be surprised if this happened, but I've yet to see it confirmed)

It was said in an interview you can go back to your garrison if you want to.

[SL1200]

It wouldn't surprise me if they nerfed the garrison into the ground. I hope they dont, but they like pissing on the players so I expect they'll do just that.

[Yooginava182]

I am beyond glad that they are leaving Garrisons behind... Garrisons are the most annoying thing of the game... One of the major reasons I left... How fun was it for you to just sit in your garrison isolated from the world... like come on..

[Mechazod]

I hope they dont nerf them that hard, they could always throw in a lore-excuse of wanting to keep the garrisons operational in order to clean up the Iron Horde's mess and fix up Draenor, unless at the start of Legion they are going to have the story start with the time-portal shutting down and WoD's content just existing in the same game as how you can still go back and do any old-content with no reflection on the plot.

[Florena]

Other than nerfing gold rewards they don't need to do anything. It's not that Blizzard didn't think of garrisons post WoD. They designed them specifically to be a WoD feature from the beginning that would not carry over into Legion. THey've said they want to do more features like that, that are only around for one expansion, which is what I suspect artifacts and class halls will be too. They might take some elements that worked well from garrisons and use them in the future and improve upon them, but garrisons themselves were never meant to be taken with us.

They don't need to adjust the achievements. People who obsess over getting them all are in the minority. Some of the achiveemnts might be harder to get going forward, especially the gladiator sanctum ones, but not impossible.

[Deleted]

Even if you do nerf rewards, wouldn't it be dull having all that conglomerate of subsystems and mini-games in the game screaming to new players "achievement points! mounts!" but not offering other rewards and not being end-game level? Sometimes I think one of the worst features of WoW was adding achievements and other such vanity titles. Sure it was fun collecting some for a while but when I realized they are never-ending and nobody cares but you, I started thinking they mainly keep the game back.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

Even if you do nerf rewards, wouldn't it be dull having all that conglomerate of subsystems and mini-games in the game screaming to new players "achievement points! mounts!" but not offering other rewards and not being end-game level? Sometimes I think one of the worst features of WoW was adding achievements and other such vanity titles. Sure it was fun collecting some for a while but when I realized they are never-ending and nobody cares but you, I started thinking they mainly keep the game back.

Achievements is far from keeping the game back. Removing them is utterly stupid. People already complain about a loss of features. Achievements are fine.

[Deleted]

Achievements is far from keeping the game back. Removing them is utterly stupid. People already complain about a loss of features. Achievements are fine.

I mainly blame human nature there. In theory, sure they can be fun and they are fun indeed for some people. But I believe they also hit a dark spot in people, their vanity, and it makes them get obsessed with them, and that may make them hate the game without even realize it.

Sure, it's not a problem for good personalities, but we all know the world and therefore our players are not perfect personalities.

[SL1200]

They arent pissing on anyone, just making it so you cant get insanes amount of gold from something that isnt max level.

You have your opinion, I have mine. Nerfing the garrisons would be pissing on the customers again.

[schwarzkopf]

How can you know what they didn't think about for when WoD is gone - until WoD is gone ?

[Low Hanging Fruit]

It will be there. I doubt it will have any value to it. I mean even the gold stuff. Think about it... in classic a few hundred gold was rich. BC a couple thousand. WotLK 50-60k was ballin. Cata 100k was Labron money. MoP a couple 100k was pretty common. In WoD it has jumped to people with toons with millions. I have no doubt this inflation will only continue.. and if not.. the damage is already done. I have a guild bank with a million gold in it roughly and several toons at or damn near cap.

[schwarzkopf]

You have your opinion, I have mine. Nerfing the garrisons would be pissing on the customers again.

Except you are wrong. Doing what they promised isn't 'pissing' on anyone.

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It will be there. I doubt it will have any value to it. I mean even the gold stuff.

The difference now is that gold has a real world exchange rate... that complicates the issue a little.

[Deleted]

It will be there. I doubt it will have any value to it. I mean even the gold stuff. Think about it... in classic a few hundred gold was rich. BC a couple thousand. WotLK 50-60k was ballin. Cata 100k was Labron money. MoP a couple 100k was pretty common. In WoD it has jumped to people with toons with millions. I have no doubt this inflation will only continue.. and if not.. the damage is already done. I have a guild bank with a million gold in it roughly and several toons at or damn near cap.

I think that point is often exaggerated lately. I was a multimillionaire in Cata. I made a million or more without doing anything too drastic in MoP too.

I don't think I get that much more gold now. In fact, I think it's a bit harder now because of the automatic generation of mats in garrisons from other players, unless you just made 100 garrisons.

Most people that think they couldn't make gold pre-WoD probably do the tedious job of re-logging to 20 garrisons or so.




In fact, it's very likely Blizzard aims to add a lot more gold sinks now that they sell gold officially so that gold to be more rare eventually. And indeed I think WoD is full of new goldsinks. e.g. to even upgrade your followers or to get gear, and it had started drastically from MoP with the BMAH too.

[Daetur]

Even if you do nerf rewards, wouldn't it be dull having all that conglomerate of subsystems and mini-games in the game screaming to new players "achievement points! mounts!" but not offering other rewards and not being end-game level? Sometimes I think one of the worst features of WoW was adding achievements and other such vanity titles. Sure it was fun collecting some for a while but when I realized they are never-ending and nobody cares but you, I started thinking they mainly keep the game back.

No more than reputations from other expansions, really- in Mists, it gave you quests from Shrine to go out to all the various reputation hubs. I'm sure that, once hitting level 100, there will be a quest pop up to prompt players to move to Legion content, just like there was implemented for level 90 at the start of Warlords.

[shadowmouse]

Some meals don't make for good leftovers. I expect WoD to take first place as the expansion that I hate having to level through after things have moved on. It used to be TBC because we had extra servings of it (the WotLK delay here). Now it's WotLK because I can't move on early like I can with TBC or Vanilla.

[SL1200]

Except you are wrong. Doing what they promised isn't 'pissing' on anyone.

Promised? what did they promise and when?

[Alopex Major]

As much as I hate them, I do wish they would stay if only so my 100s can sit and do nothing but collect gold while I'm not leveling them. Most of my alts I kept at 91 to hoard up resources and gold while I waited for flying to be added in.