Democratic Election 2016 - Hillary Clinton Megathread [OFFICIAL]

[Endus]

Now that both parties have settled on official candidates, we're going to try and keep discussion to just two megathreads; American election threads are currently 1/4 of GenOT, which is drowning out other subjects.

This thread has been designated for discussion of the Democratic candidate, Hillary Clinton, and her policy platform and so forth. We have another thread here for discussion the Republican candidate, Donald Trump.

A few things before we kick off;

1> Flaming other users, no matter how much you disagree, is not okay. If you're that angry, just take a breather.

2> There's a difference between "valid criticism" and "political bashing". And the latter is against site rules. These threads are not excuses to be abusive to each other. Everyone has to play nice. "I disagree with X because of Y and Z" is criticism. "All Y are idiots and want to destroy the world" is bashing. It's not all that subtle a difference.

3> Please try and keep the discussion separated. You can reference the other party/candidate for comparison's sake, but actual discussion of the other platform or candidate should be in their respective thread.

4> The discussion is about the elections; if you want to talk about other candidates who failed to make the grade and such, that's fine, as long as we maintain the separation by party. The candidates are listed because it's expected they'll be primary focuses, and because it makes for easier searching and such.

Links up front is probably a good idea:
Hillary Clinton on Politifact:
http://www.politifact.com/personalit...llary-clinton/

Tim Kaine on Politifact:
http://www.politifact.com/personalities/tim-kaine/

Democratic Party Platform (will be updated later this summer):
https://www.democrats.org/party-platform

Her campaign web site
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/

DNC Email Links
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/

[zenkai]

Her campaign web site
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/

DNC Email Links
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/

[Planeshaper]

Links up front is probably a good idea:
Hillary Clinton on Politifact:
http://www.politifact.com/personalit...llary-clinton/

Tim Kaine on Politifact:
http://www.politifact.com/personalities/tim-kaine/

Democratic Party Platform (will be updated later this summer):
https://www.democrats.org/party-platform

[Vash The Stampede]

Darn, and I was hoping for more threads about how Trump is winning or losing, or how Hillary is winning or losing. Oh well, VOTE FOR TRUMP!

[zenkai]

Darn, and I was hoping for more threads about how Trump is winning or losing, or how Hillary is winning or losing. Oh well, VOTE FOR TRUMP!

The problem with these mega threads is that legit talking points get lost in a swarm of stupid stuff and it gets really confusing.

[Wildtree]

The problem with these mega threads is that legit talking points get lost in a swarm of stupid stuff and it gets really confusing.

How come?
We're managing just perfectly the gun debate in that meta thread. Think about it.
In the end, it's just out of line. I can see it already. A plethora of threads, because every second forum user thinks they've to make their own for that little tiny bit of information.
Let me offer another view instead.
Meta threads serving very well by burying unnecessary news bits, and instead keep debate worthy points afloat.

[Espe]

Get out and vote people, the Republicans aren't going to go down easy and if you take a look at their party platform and legislative agendas you can see just how much damage they are eager to do.

VOTE!!!

[Ellerain]

Past behaviour is the best predictor for future behaviour.

[zenkai]

How come?
We're managing just perfectly the gun debate in that meta thread. Think about it.
In the end, it's just out of line. I can see it already. A plethora of threads, because every second forum user thinks they've to make their own for that little tiny bit of information.
Let me offer another view instead.
Meta threads serving very well by burying unnecessary news bits, and instead keep debate worthy points afloat.

Gun thread is one subject and it's just a back and forth, and if you read it then you know it's a terrible thread. Things on political candidates will branch into many different subjects.

[Wildtree]

https://polination.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/hillary-watergate.jpg

Past behaviour is the best predictor for future behaviour.

True, or just the same fake meme as the Trump one from the People magazine?

Cha ching..
http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/zeifman.asp

[Ellerain]

Cha ching..
http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/zeifman.asp

Snopes is an extremely unreliable source, known for publishing pro-democrat 'fact checks' (and later sneakily editing the articles as needed) as they have shown e.g. during obamacare-related controversies. Dig deeper instead of cha-chinging at the first link that comes up.

[Espe]

Dig deeper instead of cha-chinging at the first link that comes up.

When facts and logic utterly fail you, fall back on conspiracy theories and empty rhetoric.

When someone calls you out, explain to them that they just don't get it and didn't look in the right places.

Source: Pocket Conservative Handbook, first edition.

[Kaeth]

Snopes is an extremely unreliable source, known for publishing pro-democrat 'fact checks' (and later sneakily editing the articles as needed) as they have shown e.g. during obamacare-related controversies. Dig deeper instead of cha-chinging at the first link that comes up.

Yes, Snopes is so unreliable and biased. We'd better just stick with the known lie in the image you linked straight from a conservative blog.

[Justpassing]

Well this thread got off to a great start. I'm eager to explore the depths of shitposts that will surely emerge from both megathreads!

[Wildtree]

Snopes is an extremely unreliable source, known for publishing pro-democrat 'fact checks' (and later sneakily editing the articles as needed) as they have shown e.g. during obamacare-related controversies. Dig deeper instead of cha-chinging at the first link that comes up.

It's actually on you to provide uncontested content, not on me/us to disprove it.
And nope, Snopes is a credible source, as others said.
That Snopes claim you've just said, I know where that comes from, and that was fact checked too btw.
http://www.factcheck.org/2009/04/snopescom/

[Deleted]

DNC IS IMPLODING: Craigslist Ad for Actors Needed Is Live

Looking for 700 people to be utilized as actors during the National Convention.

We currently have a number of empty seats that will need to be filled as we are currently removing a number of people and need to refill their seats for the remainder of the conference.

You will be paid $50.00 each night for the remainder of the convention. You will be required to cheer at all times and will be asked to dress properly and possibly wear some promotional material.

[Reeve]

First page.

Defeating Trump should trump all other considerations this election.

[Orlong]

Ive never seen Kaine before Hillary picked him, but after seeing him a few times I cant understand how she could pick him. He just looks like a classic evil villain (giant toothy smirk) and his face always looks like someone grabbed him by the ears and stretched the skin on his face back as far as it would go. Hopefully we dont need to see much more of him

[zenkai]

DNC IS IMPLODING: Craigslist Ad for Actors Needed Is Live

That kind of stuff should be illegal.

[Deleted]

That kind of stuff should be illegal.

Dunno maybe. What's illegal is to have illegal immigrants at your Convention!