I want to share my tests on the PTR

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I´ve made new tests.

- Single target, arcane shot build, same items than my character on 7.1, no food, no flask, no bl, no bullseye: 415k dps but with 200 ping (ptr server...) that´s a big handicap because it´s harder to time the vulnerable windows for 2 aimeds and I waste a lot of focus, I think that with a normal ping I could get 20k more. Right now I do 350k on ST on 7.1 on dummy so that´s an improve close to 100k dps, we will see what happens.

you tube.com/watch?v=zLeH5nVt9m4


-Single target, arcane shot build, 4 pieces from Nighthold, legendary boots, legendary gloves (bugged, they proc only during True Shot), trinket from Nighthold -CD True shot, no food, no flask , no bl, no bullseye. I have made this test to see the nerf to the bonus from Nighthold and the nerf to the legendary gloves and boots. Before I could achieve 600k dps now onlye 5XXk, anyway it´s good imo.

you tube.com/watch?v=tsKP-juxG6c


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Hi everyone, I ve tried differents builds on the PTR using Bis legendaries and set from Nighthold.

I have testd SW and arcane shot, and IMO arcane shot is currently stronger using Lone wolf, True Aim and Trick shot.

Tests are done without flask, rune, food, bl and bullseye, and without the +100% to aimed shot .

Here is a test on ST using MoC:

legendaries: gloves + boots
dps is normally between 550 and 650

my ilvl is 880, 36 traits and 909 weapon

you tube.com/watch?v=qZr-s45THH8

Here is a test for AOE (5 targets) using Barrage:

legendaries: boots + trinket
Dps is normally between 900 and 1200

you tube.com/watch?v=bCZBmPf6vxY

From my point of view, Hunter mm will be really strong on ST with bis gear, really strong using SW for spread aoe and correct for stacked AOE using multishot.

I don´t know if you are gonna find this interesting or not, anyway I have seen a lot of people talking about the end of MM hunter on 7.1.5 and I think they haven´t tested it right now with the correct gear.

Feel free to comment and ask me what ever you want.

Sorry if I ve done big mistakes writting this

[Daydreaming]

Boots seem op as shit.

Also i think Belt will be better then trinket for Aoe set up due to trick shot.

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did they fix AS damage vs dummys?

[andreasels]

did they fix AS damage vs dummys?

Should be fixed, since it doesn't deal 100% increased dmg if out of combat anymore, but 100% increased damage against targets you didn't damage yet instead.

[Dracodraco]

Should be fixed, since it doesn't deal 100% increased dmg if out of combat anymore, but 100% increased damage against targets you didn't damage yet instead.

Considering every single crit even outside of trueshot is smashing 1.5M's (and +2M DURING) on that dummy in the video, I don't think it was fixed when he recorded this.

[Deleted]

it´s fixed, I ve done the test last night, those big crits are because I hit the dummy at the end of vulnerable

[Kashey]

So it's about 50-55 sec cd with set+leg boots?
Hm...now it's interesting how trinket will proc with -5sec cd, 1-2 times between TS or not)

[Dracodraco]

it´s fixed, I ve done the test last night, those big crits are because I hit the dummy at the end of vulnerable

Eh, I mean... Maybe? My biggest aimed shot testing on the PTR so far during raids in 879 gear (which does mean my weapon is scaled down to 879) has been about 1.8M, and that's last second Vuln with Trueshot up. It'd be easier if you could post some logs for us to check, but I don't *think* 30 weapon ilvls should correlate to a 20-25% damage increase. Might be wrong though.

[Deleted]

well... weapon 909 and 5% bonus dmg increases a lot the dmg, maybe you weren´t using true aim and trick shot, those talents buff a lot your aimed shot

[Daydreaming]

well... weapon 909 and 5% bonus dmg increases a lot the dmg, maybe you weren´t using true aim and trick shot, those talents buff a lot your aimed shot

Anyone tested Belt + trickshot combo?

Might be insane since most of fights in nighthold are not purely single target.

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I want to report piercing shot for 5,2M on PTR. welcome to mythic+ aoe burst

[Daydreaming]

I want to report piercing shot for 5,2M on PTR. welcome to mythic+ aoe burst

If you have legendary belt, then trickshot + belt should be much better aoe then piercing shot

[Deleted]

If you have legendary belt, then trickshot + belt should be much better aoe then piercing shot

possible. I have belt. And even then i dont think trickshot will be better then hit for 5M to main target and 2.5 to all other. on 2 pack pull its hit for like 25M

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If you have legendary belt, then trickshot + belt should be much better aoe then piercing shot

I doubt it.
at least not "much better".
I mean, first of all, you need to have Vulnerable up to deal AoE damage. So it needs to proc often enough to be consistent. Piercing Shot doesn't need more than 1 every 30 seconds.


I'd pick it over Piercing shot simply because it's easier to use on ST though.

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if u take piercing shot you lose constant aoe dmg from trick shot, and piercing shot depends on your position and its only each 30 seconds, without it your aoe dmg is a joke and after it you are 0 focus.... I dont see piercing shot worth....

[Kennyloggins]

Considering every single crit even outside of trueshot is smashing 1.5M's (and +2M DURING) on that dummy in the video, I don't think it was fixed when he recorded this.

This is how hard it should be hitting. MM is sick

[Dracodraco]

This is how hard it should be hitting. MM is sick

Yea wasn't accounting for him going with True Aim, because it's not realistic in a raid scenario to be using it, but that would account for 16% more damage on the shots which brings it very close to the numbers I've seen.

[Deleted]

it´s actually realistic due to the fact you are using arcane shot, it takes maybe 10 seconds to get all the charges. LaL gives u a proc that can maybe give u 1 more aimed in a vulnerable window and a lot of times you will cap focus because of that.... imo true aim is better right now

[Deleted]

This is how hard it should be hitting. MM is sick

Incoming hotfix nerf in day 2 after patch release

[Daydreaming]

it´s actually realistic due to the fact you are using arcane shot, it takes maybe 10 seconds to get all the charges. LaL gives u a proc that can maybe give u 1 more aimed in a vulnerable window and a lot of times you will cap focus because of that.... imo true aim is better right now

How big is the difference between boots vs no boots with arcane shot?