How to compete in the M+ Invitational 101

[Spoonman]

I thought id share some tips for everyone whos gonna compete in the invitational thingie setup by Blizzard
If your aiming high here is whats you need

1. Have a team of players whom played the game for a few years
2. Be Blood elf if available
3. Have a Blood DK as Tank for all dungeons exept if its Nectrotic affix
4. Have a Resto Druid as Healer for all (Yes its that superior) If you start having DPS Issues bring Holy Pala instead
5. Have 2 Beast Mastery Hunters with CR Pets for all (Yes its that Superior)
6. As 3rd DPS have an Elemental Shaman if its trash heavy dungeon and/or Fortified(Never use Ele Sham in Upper Kara)
7. If its not a trash heavy dungeon and/or Tyranical, bring Assa or Sub Rogue as 3rd DPS
8. Blizzard thinks the game is balanced lol
9. ???
10. Profit

Good luck

[Korban]

(Never use Ele Sham in Upper Kara)

why, tho ?

[Queen of Hamsters]

I can see that this M+ invitational will be just as filled with salt as the Arena tournaments...

[Spoonman]

why, tho ?

Because elemental suffers from having the longest Cooldowns in the game and the bosses in Upper Kara comes to quickly after each other so CDs will never be ready when you need em. Curator -> Shade -> Wyrm Boss

[Deleted]

I like how none of the top M+ runs have used the comp described by OP.

[lonely zergling]

I doubt that. You will see many more classes / specs in play.

Afflock/Arms/Sub/MM/Arcane/Frost/BM/Balance/Havoc/Unholy just to name a few.
Basically all tanks
Rdruid/Hpala/Rshaman

Depending on affixes and dungeon you will see different classes.

[Deathquoi]

I have some tips for OP on how to enjoy this game.

1) don't be pooper pained about perfect optimal comps.

That's really it.

[Emancptr]

I thought id share some tips for everyone whos gonna compete in the invitational thingie setup by Blizzard
If your aiming high here is whats you need

1. Have a team of players whom played the game for a few years
2. Have a Blood DK as Tank for all dungeons exept if its Nectrotic affix
3. Have a Resto Druid as Healer for all (Yes its that superior)
4. Have 2 Beast Mastery Hunters with CR Pets for all (Yes its that Superior)
5. As 3rd DPS have an Elemental Shaman if its trash heavy dungeon and/or Fortified(Never use Ele Sham in Upper Kara)
6. If its not a trash heavy dungeon and/or Tyranical, bring Assa or Sub Rogue as 3rd DPS
7. Blizzard thinks the game is balanced lol
8. ???
9. Profit

Good luck

I love this.

2) Blood Dk isn't the best tank for M+ currently. I have world 1st in 4 or 5 dungeons (as of yesterday) with Guardian Druid. Blood DK probably has the best survivability in M+, but that isn't all that matters.
4) BM Hunters are not top dps. I would take an MM Hunter over BM anytime.
7) Game isn't perfectly balanced (especially for 5 man content). However making it into the top 8 for your region can be done with any composition. Once you've done that you're on the tournament realm where you can most likely play any class/spec/race combo you think is best.
8) ???
9) Lose to whatever group Fragnance puts together because their dps is 10-25% better than yours

[Kazuchika]

I can't wait for this to be a bigger shitshow than the last one they did with those college teams that had people getting hit by volcanoes every 10 seconds and everyone in chat laughing at them

[Spoonman]

I love this.

2) Blood Dk isn't the best tank for M+ currently. I have world 1st in 4 or 5 dungeons (as of yesterday) with Guardian Druid. Blood DK probably has the best survivability in M+, but that isn't all that matters

What exactly does Druid have that makes it better?

4) BM Hunters are not top dps. I would take an MM Hunter over BM anytime.

The Ress and the abilitiy to Burst ST incredibly often outweighs the big AOE MM Have

[Emancptr]

What exactly does Druid have that makes it better?


The Ress and the abilitiy to Burst ST incredibly often outweighs the big AOE MM Have

Guardian Druid is about 100-150k more dps than Blood DK (for the whole dungeon).

And AoE burst MM is much better than BM ST burst. And if you're worried about boss dmg in tyrannical MM wins when fights are long enough for a 2nd true shot.

And brez is heavily overrated in M+. You definitely don't need 2 BM just for brez. Generally you want 1-2 brez total in a group.

[Tech614]

Guardian Druid is about 100-150k more dps than Blood DK (for the whole dungeon).

And VDH is probably another 150-200k higher then Guardian Druid. Not to mention has crazy scaling hps with multi mobs, can do 800k hps on most heavy pulls and even over a mil on same basically making them invincible unless they get globaled. Also has an 8 second aoe silence. Amazing how people still don't realize how broken VDH is in mythic+.

[Emancptr]

Yeah, I didn't comment on VDH because I don't run it and haven't seen someone run it. I don't doubt that VDH has very good dps.

[Killface1]

I will be surprised if a lot of the top groups aren't running VDH. I honestly expect pretty much every top group to be running a vdh or a guardian drood. Their AOE and cleave DPS is significantly higher than every other tanks. And pretty much the only thing that matters in mythic plus is dps, because you can assume everybody should know the mechanics of each pull to time cooldowns in any top group. The 2x AoE silence (blood elf), insane dps, and massive HPS in any big intense pull makes them pretty fucking unstoppable.

There are definitely a few dungeons where a DK grip speeds things up or makes pulls less time consuming (like pelter grips on nelth for instance).

[f4ncybear]

I can't wait for this to be a bigger shitshow than the last one they did with those college teams that had people getting hit by volcanoes every 10 seconds and everyone in chat laughing at them

Come on, some college kids that could come on short notice vs mythic NEETs that will push 25+ for this. I am also interested if they are going to push their "Default UI only" things they do in PvP.

[Deleted]

Yeah, I didn't comment on VDH because I don't run it and haven't seen someone run it. I don't doubt that VDH has very good dps.

Spirit Bomb is broken as shit right now, I really don't get why they haven't nerfed it more yet.

[Moshots]

I love this.

2) Blood Dk isn't the best tank for M+ currently. I have world 1st in 4 or 5 dungeons (as of yesterday) with Guardian Druid. Blood DK probably has the best survivability in M+, but that isn't all that matters.
4) BM Hunters are not top dps. I would take an MM Hunter over BM anytime.
7) Game isn't perfectly balanced (especially for 5 man content). However making it into the top 8 for your region can be done with any composition. Once you've done that you're on the tournament realm where you can most likely play any class/spec/race combo you think is best.
8) ???
9) Lose to whatever group Fragnance puts together because their dps is 10-25% better than yours

BM hunters are brought for lust... Given that they can lust then swap pets to bres... and do amazing burst dps on specific must die mobs/bosses... Like cathedral last boss portals try to beat a BM hunter on them.

[Killface1]

Spirit Bomb is broken as shit right now, I really don't get why they haven't nerfed it more yet.

Probably because from a raid standpoint, VDH have literally nothing else going for them in comparison to other tanks besides their DPS, which is dependent on not moving too much.

From a mythic + standpoint, VDH is broke af

[MrExcelion]

Thought I'd see something about racials in here

[SenpaiDean]

BM hunters are brought for lust... Given that they can lust then swap pets to bres... and do amazing burst dps on specific must die mobs/bosses... Like cathedral last boss portals try to beat a BM hunter on them.

just bring drums