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    Utah Nurse arrested for protecting patient's consitutional rights.

    http://www.sltrib.com/news/2017/08/3...scious-victim/

    Alex Wubbels, seen here in various images from police body cam video, was arrested after explaining to police that she couldn't draw a blood sample from an unconscious person at University Hospital. A Salt Lake City police detective asked for a blood sample. After explaining to the detective that the police needed a warrant, consent from the unconscious patient or that the patient needed to be under arrest before the blood sample could be drawn, she was arrested.

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    Hope she gets some money for the unnecessarily harsh treatment.

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    So basically she's probably about to make a considerable amount of money and the ones arresting her are likely to lose their positions. Assuming this is the whole story.

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    Well shit... I hope she can sue (And win) someone for this. I mean, they're arresting someone for refusing to break the law.

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    Should be open and shut case, he should be fired for misused of authority and an apology issued.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirfailalot View Post
    So basically she's probably about to make a considerable amount of money and the ones arresting her are likely to lose their positions. Assuming this is the whole story.
    Assuming she wasn't a minority then yes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sormine View Post
    Assuming she wasn't a minority then yes
    If she's black expect the entire city to burn down :/

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    "Payne — who contends he wanted the blood sample to protect the victim, not punish him..."

    Yeah buddy. I sure bet. If he was then he wouldn't have arrested the Nurse. Police are your guilty until you prove you are innocent. these days.

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    Not very surprising. Peoples rights in Trumps America mean nothing, just as he showed with the Arpaio pardon.
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    True, I was just bored and tired but you are correct.

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    millennials were the kids of the 9/11 survivors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Linadra View Post
    Not very surprising. Peoples rights in Trumps America mean nothing, just as he showed with the Arpaio pardon.
    Yeah, good thing there weren't issues under any previous presidents regarding civil rights, police over-reach, and the creeping police state. All that stuff began Jan 20th of this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logwyn View Post
    "Payne — who contends he wanted the blood sample to protect the victim, not punish him..."

    Yeah buddy. I sure bet. If he was then he wouldn't have arrested the Nurse. Police are your guilty until you prove you are innocent. these days.

    At about 2 p.m. on July 26, Gray was driving a semi north on State Road 89/91 near Sardine Canyon when a man fleeing from the Utah Highway Patrol crashed a pickup truck into him head-on, according to Logan police, who investigated the collision.
    He was literally the victim. There's no reason except to protect police ass to get blood from him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by atsawin26 View Post
    Yeah, good thing there weren't issues under any previous presidents regarding civil rights, police over-reach, and the creeping police state. All that stuff began Jan 20th of this year.
    Dunno if you noticed, but trump announced plans to resume selling military surplus to police, a practice that was banned under obama.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rudol Von Stroheim View Post
    I do not need to play the role of "holier than thou". I'm above that..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Linadra View Post
    Not very surprising. Peoples rights in Trumps America mean nothing, just as he showed with the Arpaio pardon.
    Police attracting people that are desperate to display their authority (in all the wrong ways possible) has been an issue since .. well the inception of any kind of militia/city guard in the first human societies. The cheeto in charge has really nothing to do with this topic..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ripster42 View Post
    Dunno if you noticed, but trump announced plans to resume selling military surplus to police, a practice that was banned under obama.
    Irrelevant to the post I was quoting. it's idiotic to imply problems with erosion to civil liberties and police overreach are a phenomenon unique to the Trump presidency.

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    The police went way too far on this one. It wasn't just the detective, but the department as a whole. Hopefully, the nurse sues their asses off, and the department learns a very valuable lesson.

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    Quote Originally Posted by atsawin26 View Post
    Irrelevant to the post I was quoting. it's idiotic to imply problems with erosion to civil liberties and police overreach are a phenomenon unique to the Trump presidency.
    When things are trending one way, and they reverse direction, I believe it's appropriate.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rudol Von Stroheim View Post
    I do not need to play the role of "holier than thou". I'm above that..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haidaes View Post
    Police attracting people that are desperate to display their authority (in all the wrong ways possible) has been an issue since .. well the inception of any kind of militia/city guard in the first human societies. The cheeto in charge has really nothing to do with this topic..
    Yeah, I'm sure a practical presidential endorsement on allowing police to abuse their authority, has nothing at all to do with police then abusing their authority more boldly. Nothing at all. Can't connect the dots.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jtbrig7390 View Post
    True, I was just bored and tired but you are correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by epigramx View Post
    millennials were the kids of the 9/11 survivors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Linadra View Post
    Yeah, I'm sure a practical presidential endorsement on allowing police to abuse their authority, has nothing at all to do with police then abusing their authority more boldly. Nothing at all. Can't connect the dots.
    You are hysterical. We have a thread about police being morons about daily here. Attributing this one case directly to the orange baffoon is simply not accurate. If we find in a couple months/years down the line that these cases increased by so-and-so much percent then you have a case. Well if we find a suitable metric to measure them. Though even then, it will be hard to attribute any single case to Dump unless the cop in question starts chanting "sieg, heil trump!".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sormine View Post
    Assuming she wasn't a minority then yes
    Oh yes of course. Then she could sue for a crap ton of money instead by pulling the racist card!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haidaes View Post
    You are hysterical. We have a thread about police being morons about daily here. Attributing this one case directly to the orange baffoon is simply not accurate. If we find in a couple months/years down the line that these cases increased by so-and-so much percent then you have a case. Well if we find a suitable metric to measure them. Though even then, it will be hard to attribute any single case to Dump unless the cop in question starts chanting "sieg, heil trump!".
    Reality of the world is apparently hysterical to you. That's precisely what happens when you have practical endorsement from highest office. Or can you explain the rise in hate crimes since Trump? What about all the white supremacists and racists all of a sudden coming out of the woodwork into the spotlight since Trump?

    Newsflash: People get bolder if their behavior is endorsed. Deny reality all you want, but it still remains reality.

    Or you somehow imagine cops are magically excluded from becoming bolder? Despite the worst of them just receiving a pardon for all the abuse he had done?
    Quote Originally Posted by Jtbrig7390 View Post
    True, I was just bored and tired but you are correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by epigramx View Post
    millennials were the kids of the 9/11 survivors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logwyn View Post
    "Payne — who contends he wanted the blood sample to protect the victim, not punish him..."

    Yeah buddy. I sure bet. If he was then he wouldn't have arrested the Nurse. Police are your guilty until you prove you are innocent. these days.
    Well, according to the article the guy was a police reservist who was caught in a car accident with someone fleeing from police. So in this case, I would accept that the police want the guy's blood to help him.

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