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    Shadow's edge - how to assemble?

    This post is directed to fellow officers around the globe, this post is not a "how to get", but "how to deal with". To start with the main issue, the crafter will need 25 Primordial Saronites to get Shadow's Edge, before you can start the quest to obtain Shadowmourne, the legendary axe.

    How do other guilds sort this issue? We as a guild use a Dkp system for items and we used to auction orbs. However with the legendary axe and all those awesome craftables a new problem has risen. Who gets the Saronites? Do you just auction them and let 1 person burn all his dkp for the axe? Do you let them grind themselves for gold and buy them? Does the axe have priority over craftables?

    Handing them over to the best melee dps is not an option for us as guild, its not the way we work. So we could either buy 25 saronites of the ah (approx 50k gold) or let the raiders spend emblems, gold or dkp on them.

    What do other guilds do?

  2. #2

    Re: Shadow's edge - how to assemble?

    one of my guilds officers is getting the axe, but he is responsible for making the Epic version with his own gold. As will everyone else that will get it. Beeing toward the bottom of the list for me i'll save a lot of gold i guess, and might get H Bryntroll *rockfist*
    Pondering returning.
    Nikoll - Retribution Paladin

  3. #3

    Re: Shadow's edge - how to assemble?

    hand it to the best melee.
    I've no idea what to write here.

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    Re: Shadow's edge - how to assemble?

    Mine does it this way: Pick the best melee DPS (Out of the 3 possible classes)

    Give him all Saronite and Shadowfrost shards dropping.

    And u get urself a shiny Shadowmourne in no time (That is after Lich King is killable)

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    Re: Shadow's edge - how to assemble?

    we use a DKP loot council system, DKP to keep track of how many items someone has gotten, you will be docked 1 DKP. it decays after 60 days of when you got that item.
    what we do right now;
    if you want the T10 token off Saurfang, you have to put 1 Orb (if you want more Tokens you put in more) in the gbank before a raid.
    you wont get docked DKP for they right now.
    We arent sure yet who will get the legendary tho.

  6. #6

    Re: Shadow's edge - how to assemble?

    our guild saves the items used to craft stuff like runed orbs and the saronite and ppl pay ep for them (we use the epgp system) i think its -75ep per saronite atm

  7. #7

    Re: Shadow's edge - how to assemble?

    We opened a donation "box" for primordial saronite that allows members to receive a large chunk of DKP per donated Primordial Saronite. The maximum amount of donations per person is only 2 to make sure that wealthy guildmembers can't get an edge over the lesser wealthy ones.

    This donation box closes on the 7th at which time we auction 25 of the primordial saronite between our longterm core raiders. The remaining primordial saronite will then be used to buy crafting patterns.

  8. #8

    Re: Shadow's edge - how to assemble?

    All of the above

    Sell the Saronite from the guild bank for dkp and Gold (discounted from the Ah of course)

    As for the Shards they should only be rolled on by Dk's warriors Paladins only and only if they are primarily dps.

    The best way to go about determining which one gets the first shard (and subsequently the next 49) is to go down the list of who has the highest dkp and ask them if they would be willing to forfeit all of there current Dkp for the shard and the right to get the next 49)

    Simply put

    3 2h melee dps in raid Bob Rick and Joe
    Joe has 130 dkp
    Bob has 110 dkp
    Rick has 95 dkp

    Joe passes up the chance and chooses to keep his dkp
    Bob takes the offer and will receive all future shards until he gets 50 total

    Again do not let hunters roll because they cannot upgrade it to shadowmourne
    Do not let Tanking Dk's roll because if they are still claiming threat issues at this level of gameplay it is time to replace them.

    If you choose to let either the Dk Tank or hunter roll you will most likely end up losing a good portion of your melee dps and have a very hard time replacing them due to the stigma of you screwing them over.

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    Re: Shadow's edge - how to assemble?

    also, assuming that the proc is off attacks ret has the most.

    Just saying.
    Pondering returning.
    Nikoll - Retribution Paladin

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    Re: Shadow's edge - how to assemble?

    We use a system called "Buy Saronites for your own gold and fragments will burn your DKP".

    I have already spent over 35 000g for saronites, 7 saronites are missing.

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    Re: Shadow's edge - how to assemble?

    We first decided who gets the Legendary, by looking at reliability, skill, and future plans regarding wow.

    Then we had everyone attending the first ICC clear commit to donating 1 Primordial Saronite to the guild bank, deadline when the second ICC phase begins.

    This allows people to get the primordial saronite with their alts, rather than mains, and still have them all in time for when they are needed.
    For each donated Saronite gbank gives out 3k gold as a compensation.


  12. #12

    Re: Shadow's edge - how to assemble?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fyreeze
    we use a DKP loot council system, DKP to keep track of how many items someone has gotten, you will be docked 1 DKP. it decays after 60 days of when you got that item.
    what we do right now;
    if you want the T10 token off Saurfang, you have to put 1 Orb (if you want more Tokens you put in more) in the gbank before a raid.
    you wont get docked DKP for they right now.
    We arent sure yet who will get the legendary tho.
    This is an interesting idea, but the major problem with it is that the T10 token off Saurfang requires you to have bought the purely badges T10 first. This system is encouraging people to spend their badges on saronite, slowing down how fast they can get T10, which diminishes the value of the token. What my current guild was doing (We have all 25) was crediting people for two full raid nights, with on time bonuses, for donating saronite, with a limit of one per, and they can not be bought with badges from your main. At least 15 or so people donated, and the person that won the bid on the shadowmourne went and bought 10 more pieces of saronite because he is crazy.

  13. #13

    Re: Shadow's edge - how to assemble?

    I'm assuming my guild officers will decide when the second phase of ICC is out.
    You face not Malchezaar alone, but the legions he commands.

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    Re: Shadow's edge - how to assemble?

    Thanks for the usefull replies, I found my ideas in here. I wish you all the luck getting your legendaries together as a guild!

  15. #15

    Re: Shadow's edge - how to assemble?

    I'm a strict 10 man guild and what is shadowmorne?
    'u get constant hit by ice shit from roof so you can travel instantly all across the room'

  16. #16

    Re: Shadow's edge - how to assemble?

    well, go to a blacksmith and ask a dwarf in there to forge it. if he doesn't tip him 100-150 gold. if this doesnt work too, then u have to find another blacksmith...

    i hope this helps..

  17. #17

    Re: Shadow's edge - how to assemble?

    The guy that said each raider has to buy one said they are 1 to buy them with Alta not mains. And 2 said the gbank is giving them 3k per. They could buy one for 2k and turn a profit if they want to.
    Pondering returning.
    Nikoll - Retribution Paladin

  18. #18

    Re: Shadow's edge - how to assemble?

    We did it this way

    Made an officer post all officers voted all officers agreed that the fury warrior who had been the most active would get it and since then me and 4 other officers and the guy who would get it have done heroics everyday on alts/mains for the saronites to get the quest done as soon as possible think he has 23 now.

    And putting the saronites that we loot in icc in guildbank to prevent casters from complaining ;D

    And when he will eventully start getting the shards to drop he will have to pay a low amount of gp for each shard the same as we did with the mace in ulduar.
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    Re: Shadow's edge - how to assemble?

    for just shadows edge (not the legendary) or plan is.

    - get 20 saornite yourself, and the guild will give you the last 5.
    - no spending your mains badges on ore unless you have all your other badge loot.

    (so basically AH 20 ore or farm badges on alts to stock ore for your main)

  20. #20

    Re: Shadow's edge - how to assemble?

    Our guild works with loot council, officers decided who gets it, but since the axe is an upgrade for only 1 person they rather spend the orbs on getting patterns and gear for more people than spending the primordial on 1 person.

    since they are doing this i'm farming everything i can and selling it on the ah. so far I have 10 maybe 11 if tonight i get lucky and find another cheap primordial

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