Hand of Spell Protection

[Alensia]

Hand of Spell Protection, similar to Hand of Protection, but works only against spell damage. This was discussed sometime before TBC as a potential new spell for paladins, but was rendered "too OP" back then. How would you feel, if Blizzard introduced this?

[Evilution]

why not just add the function to the current Hand of Protection?

[Hyze]

why not just add the function to the current Hand of Protection?

Idea being they would have to choose between the two depending on the situation, as opposed to just bubbling another player.

[Jerazznor]

why not just add the function to the current Hand of Protection?

Well for one, that would give the person complete immunity which is a big no-no. But also part of HoP was that you can't do anything physical for the time being seeing as you cannot be harmed by physical abilities.

I would really like to see a Hand of Spell Protection especially in today's arenas where spell casters (you know who I am talking about) can tear even well geared people in a few short seconds. Although I imagine this won't be really necessary in Cata. Also it will cause all sorts of problems when combined with things like CloS, AMS etc so unless there was some kind of shared forbearance on immunities/big defensive CDs I don't see any way it would be fair to casters.

[zcks]

Blizz has already stated that they want to move ret away from defensive abilities in favor of offensive ones, so if they were to make any new defensive Cd spells for paladins it would either have to be for prot or holy.

As for all of our bubbles frankly I think they should change them to make the target immune to the type of damage they prevent until damage is prevented = to X% of the paladins health (talents can increase the amount for prot and holy). If you think about it the main reason they have such crappy Cd's is because there is no limit to how much damage they can prevent & them being so powerful also causes no end to QQ from other classes.

In the end it works out better for everyone because they get a cap on damage mitigated their Cd is lowered & because defenses are not quite as powerful for ret as they are for prot & holy ret is able to get more offensive utility.

[soclever]

Ret would finally have an answer for everything. huzzah

[belfpala]

Ret would finally have an answer for everything. huzzah

An answer for everything but forbearance and the terrible implementation of the hidden cooldown on our most significant defensive utilities when we actually bother to use our one and only offensive cooldown.

[Stevegasm]

Or make http://www.wowhead.com/spell=48707 castable on others.

[Raiss]

Or make http://www.wowhead.com/spell=48707 castable on others.

A banshee spell, not a paladin spell.

We don't need more unbalanced abilitys so they can nerf our class because we can "always" (a.ka once each 5 minutes) go immune.

[Pendulus]

Don't Paladins have enough Immunity abilities already? Stop giving the saturated class more saturation.

[DaGhostDS]

im still waiting on ''Forbearance'' on evasion and cloak of shadow..

[Elessa]

No thanks, I'd like a change for HoP aswell in cata. I hope it will work more like a priest bubble, but stronger, and only against melee damage, and that they remove the forbearance.

[The Madgod]

Don't Paladins have enough Immunity abilities already? Stop giving the saturated class more saturation.

we have 1 immunity spell, and one melee immunity spell. The paladin class is based on defense. Personally, I'd love to have a spell immunity on me that still allowed me to fight. It'd really boost our defense against magic damage, something paladins are less able to defend against, compared to other tanking classes.

[Abandon]

we have 1 immunity spell, and one melee immunity spell. The paladin class is based on defense. Personally, I'd love to have a spell immunity on me that still allowed me to fight. It'd really boost our defense against magic damage, something paladins are less able to defend against, compared to other tanking classes.

This is a better version of a Death Knight spell. You don't need any more immunity effects, and the fact that you have two already (one total immunity, one physical immunity) is no reason for you to justify "needing" more immunity effects.

[Mammoth]

We could just skip all the button clicking faff and give Paladins a passive buff in arena that makes them immune to all attacks, until their arena team out numbers other arena team.

When my rogue - feral druid team draws a pair of paladins, who will just give each other melee immunity, it is game over .

[DaGhostDS]

We could just skip all the button clicking faff and give Paladins a passive buff in arena that makes them immune to all attacks, until their arena team out numbers other arena team.

When my rogue - feral druid team draws a pair of paladins, who will just give each other melee immunity, it is game over .

lack of knowledge of the class

so 10sec of physical immunity, you cant melee while doing it? and get a debuff for 2min that you cant do anything else (bubble, divine protection) plus a cd of 5min on BoP
if they kill you while in that you deserved to die

[Sonics]

why not just add the function to the current Hand of Protection?

Because then it would be a 2nd Divine Protection...

Was that really hard to figure out?

[Djävul]

Make em share cooldown and be used after the needs

[DaGhostDS]

Make em share cooldown and be used after the needs

http://www.wowhead.com/spell=25771
oh hai..

[The Madgod]

This is a better version of a Death Knight spell. You don't need any more immunity effects, and the fact that you have two already (one total immunity, one physical immunity) is no reason for you to justify "needing" more immunity effects.

I never said that the paladin class needed anything. I was just saying that it would be a nice tool to have. I don't PvP so I don't care about, nor know much about the specifics of paladin bubble QQ. From what I can tell, people whine because of a buff which can be removed, or just waited out.

From a PvE vantage point, a spell bubble would be a nice tool to have, that's all I said.

As well, you're assuming the potency of the spell. I never specified anything about it.