[PC/Gaming rig] Do not want to build it my self.

[holyforce]

So my family recently came into some money, approx 82k US So i wanted to buy a high end PRE BUILT gaming rig. I'm no hardware guy so i don't wanna touch that, I'm a software jockey :P So im looking at some systems on Cyber PC newegg and doghouse systems. max i can spend is abut 5k us. I have heard a lot of bad things about cyber/newegg pc's being doa. So I'm steering more towards dog house. I'm playing on a toaster right now so anything would be an upgrade. I was also thinking of putting a 250GB SSD in the main drive with a back up 1TB 7,200 SATA drive in bay 2.

This is what I'm looking at.

http://www.doghousesystems.com/Help_...s.asp?CartID=1

one last time i don't want to build it my self, and yes i know I'm paying like triple the price i should.

[c313]

That link is not working for me for some reason

But here is a link to a prebuilt PC you might like, It works like cyberpowerpc's site, where you can chose your own parts and they will build it / send it.

http://www.maingear.com/boutique/pc/...?idproduct=290

[Maruka]

nice responsible way for your family to spend 82k

also link doesnt work

[tigojones]

Most parts shops I know will also build-to-spec for you for an additional fee. Just tell them what you want to do with it, how much you want to spend and they'll build something that'll suit you.

You'll get it faster in the first place since it'd be a local store you can pick up from, and if you need service for it, you don't have to pack it up, ship it out and wait additional travel time.

I will always recommend nvidia graphics cards. I've never been too satisfied with any ATI I've had, including my current Radeon (my friend swears by them and I decided to check them out). I get a slightly weird distortion on certain blackish colours (some of the shadows/highlights com up as straight red or green pixels. happens on multiple monitors and only since I built the system).

Others experiences will vary, but I've had no luck (though I've had no luck with this system as a whole, I've had to replace the motherboard, the processor and am about to RMA the original hard drive). Part of me wants to smash it with a sledgehammer (and I might if anything else goes on it), part of me wishes I could just redo it all and go with different components.

[Havermeyer]

We can't look at your shopping cart.

Just make sure you get a proper 2560x1600 monitor.

Edit: Another place to look: http://www.mythlogiccorp.com/configure.php?id=60 The Raven 2 is my favorite no-price-is-too-high case.

[Deleted]

Most computer stores will build the system for you. DONT buy something like alienware etc or you will pay triple amount as you sed. Building a computer yourself from the parts aint hard too...

[vesseblah]

But here is a link to a prebuilt PC you might like, It works like cyberpowerpc's site, where you can chose your own parts and they will build it / send it.

http://www.maingear.com/boutique/pc/...?idproduct=290

Dual Xeon? Who the hell needs something like that for home use? Horrible waste of money...

Edit: Another place to look: http://www.mythlogiccorp.com/configure.php?id=60 The Raven 2 is my favorite no-price-is-too-high case.

And speaking of waste of money, is that store serious or fucking kidding with the computer? $2800 for $1500 worth of parts?


To OP:

Best use for money is probably picking parts from iBuyPower or CyberPowerPC, use $2-3k on the computer and get 2 great monitors on top, would cost around $4k total. The computer will lose it's value in five years, but the monitors will be still usable then for the next PC build. If you really want to blow whole $5k it's easy by adding few more SSDs. I'd rather get bit cheaper computer and spend $2k on a good big TV or video projector to play on really big screen.

[Dizey]

You could also check out Digital Storm.

[Jaqera]

I would not recommend you wasting $5000 on a computer system. IT MAKES NO SENSE!! Use it for educational purposes or something more productive. You can get a decent computer for less than $1000! No need to buy a 250GB SSD either... Just buy 60GB and squeeze your operating system and a game onto. In addition, I recommend that you just build it yourself and save thousands of dollars. That makes a lot more sense too.

That's just my opinion. I hope you read it and realize that because you recently "came into money" does not mean you ought to use it all ASAP.

[Havermeyer]

And speaking of waste of money, is that store serious or fucking kidding with the computer? $2800 for $1500 worth of parts?

I would like to know where you shop. O.O My newegg cart weighs in at $2,279.89.

http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/Gamer_Xtreme_4200/ is a cheaper starting point, though. Similar machine is $2418.

[vesseblah]

http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/Gamer_Xtreme_4200/ is a cheaper starting point, though. Similar machine is $2418.

How carefully you looked at the parts list of that Mythlogic computer? That Gamer Xtreme 4200 has $400 more spent on graphics cards (R6950 CF vs GTX580 SLI) and a SSD. That's $500 more parts in the CyberPowerPC's computer and it costs $400 less.

[Konics]

I made something for you

i7 990x
dual 6990s
512 gb ssd
12gb memory
all in some ridiculous case and other pointless stuff


http://www.ibuypower.com/Carts/ShoppingCarts.aspx

[DeltrusDisc]

That link is not working for me for some reason

But here is a link to a prebuilt PC you might like, It works like cyberpowerpc's site, where you can chose your own parts and they will build it / send it.

http://www.maingear.com/boutique/pc/...?idproduct=290

He wants to spend $5k on a computer.... and you give him one with a damned GTX 460? Come on, give the man some justice. Give him GTX 570s in SLI.... or maybe if he wants to do 3D, a 590/6990! Might as well give him more RAM than 6gb too. On top of that, he said he wanted his main drive with OS to be a 250 GB SSD....

---------- Post added 2011-05-28 at 10:13 PM ----------

I made something for you

i7 990x
dual 6990s
512 gb ssd
12gb memory
all in some ridiculous case and other pointless stuff


http://www.ibuypower.com/Carts/ShoppingCarts.aspx

Link doesn't work.

[vesseblah]

Link doesn't work.

I think he was trying to be funny at the expense of the people who post idiot links like Double Xeons.

[Konics]

Link doesn't work.

oh...came out to 6.2k lol

seriously though op.....dont drop 5 grand on a computer. doesnt matter how much money your family 'came into' save it or invest it......you can get a decent pre built comp with specs to last you 5-10 years and some nice monitors for under 2500 easily.

[Havermeyer]

How carefully you looked at the parts list of that Mythlogic computer? That Gamer Xtreme 4200 has $400 more spent on graphics cards (R6950 CF vs GTX580 SLI) and a SSD. That's $500 more parts in the CyberPowerPC's computer and it costs $400 less.

Swapped those out and swapped in the $100 overclocking fee and $300 motherboard. 8D

[Deleted]

Many of the pre-fab sets for computers have inflated prices, would look for a store that offers off-the-shelf parts with extra service to put them together instead of any branded ones. Onto the computer itself... high prices don't make a good product.

On a sidenote, the OP doesn't seem very interested in what people might have to say or even fixing the link. Anyhow, some general guidelines.

One thing about SSD drives, make sure the motherboard supports 6Gb SATA, or much of the performance gain is lost due bandwidth restrictions. Not only that but there's great differences between different SSD types and generations, so before shelling out cash on one, make sure you read some reviews. One can potentially waste a lot of cash for minimal gains. SSDs affect load times of operating system and programs, but has zero effect on FPS. Usually anything above 128 GB for an SSD system disk is wasted space, unless you have that many games and programs to fill it with. The idea is to have executables like operating system, games and programs on the SSD and other stuff that doesn't really benefit from increased loading times, like videos, music and images on another mass drive.

About CPU and memory. Unless you're into 3D modeling, video editing, running multiple games at the same time, there's very limited benefit from having memory beyond 8 gigabytes. Most contend with 4, but personally I'd be glad to have that doubled with my current 3DS Max hobby. The same goes with CPU, especially for gaming, very few games utilize more than 2 cores efficiently, even fewer benefit from more than 4 and next to none would utilize dual CPU. Very little gains can be had in terms of gaming performance by extra cores. More benefit would be seen by having the cores run at a higher clock rate, say a 3.0 GHz hexacore would likely have worse gaming performance with most games than a 3.2 GHz quad as long as their memory bandwidth and such are the same. The FPS gains from going from a Phenom II X4 / i5 2400 to a $1k i7 are minimal compared to investing to a better graphics card for one, but the performance gains in CPU intensive tasks like rendering 3D stuff is remarkable. For gaming, make sure the memory isn't ECC type, they eat performance for extra cycles to check whether the data on the memory is correct or not, they cost more and are useful for servers and such, not games. Performance gains between DDR2 ram and DDR3 have been exaggerated, but with the current price point it doesn't hurt to pay a small amount extra to get the most performance out of the type of memory your CPU and motherboard supports.

Of GFX card, reviews are your friend, unless you're a die-hard supporter of either nVidia or ATI, go for whatever gives most bang for the buck as per reviews and has had a clean track record of not so many reported faults. Two cheaper may be better than one more expensive card and there's also reviews on performance gains on them. One thing nVidia does have going for it, if you're into 3D modeling or such, is PHYSX, which is more widely supported than OpenCL, which ATI cards rely on. Both nVidia GTX560 and upwards and ATI Radeon HD6XXX series are good candidates and personally I'd go for HD6970 or GTX570 for highest performance for the price.

On motherboards and PSU. Make sure your motherboard choice has the best available support and compatibility for expanding, for the price range you're willing to pay of course. ASUS, Gigabyte and ABIT are the likely choices. Make sure your PSU choice has enough juice, but unless you're going for dual GPU rig or something, there's little point in going over 700W and reliability and efficiency are more important than load capacity that isn't even needed.

In the end, you can get a lot of oomph for a little buck and save the rest for something nice. If you know you're paying extra for something unsubstantiated or simply for showing off, why bother? Makes me wonder why I even bothered to write all this down *slap self*

[Gritty]

Set aside the $5k you would spend on a computer and send it to me. I'll build 1 great computer for me, and 1 great computer for you!

Like others have said, you can spend half the money by buying your own parts, and you will be able to find someone to put it together for you.

If you're stuck on buying a premade computer, I don't have any great advice.

[Crazybastage]

You'll have a better experience by these guys

ibuypower.com

cyberpower.com <--- bought my PC there

[Cyanotical]

Dual Xeon? Who the hell needs something like that for home use? Horrible waste of money....

lol, where is Ispano