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Wait... they're nerfing the DoTs and buffing the DDs? I'm overwhelmed with de ja vu.
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2012-09-07, 12:36 PM #861High Overlord
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2012-09-07, 01:13 PM #862Deleted
sighh.... Why would they make it that hard for themselves? Just make the innitial rake hit scale with weapon dmg in stead of being bleed dmg. 350% weapon dmg for instance...
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2012-09-07, 01:14 PM #863Grunt
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No, they nerfed rake so it's not better to just spam rake in place of mangle or shred for combo building and damage. Unfortunately, shred seems to be a bad side effect...Now mangle does the same damage as shred.
Originally Posted by Garth
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2012-09-07, 01:23 PM #864DeletedSo its confirmed that they hotfixed rake already? Originally Posted by mmofiend
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2012-09-07, 01:34 PM #865High Overlord
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I see, that makes more sense now that you put it that way. Originally Posted by mmofiend
Shred does 20% more damage on bleeding targets than mangle. So there is a difference, shred will still be the CP builder
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2012-09-07, 01:46 PM #866Grunt
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Ah, I didn't test the Shred's damage by bleeds, thanks for the info. Then, yes all is good. I think having rake based on weapon damage is a good idea, unfortunately that ruins the damage for nonferal/guardians. Not sure if that's the reason blizzard has not yet based it on weapon dps. Originally Posted by Garth
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2012-09-07, 02:08 PM #867Deleted
i dont wanna be a 1button class
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2012-09-07, 02:26 PM #868Warchief
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its not a matter of being a 1 button class, we will never be that. It was just effective to spam it instead of shred. But its gone now
Last edited by Redpanda; 2012-09-07 at 02:30 PM.
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2012-09-07, 02:29 PM #869Deleted
im frozen now till panda, so did they just simply nerf rake or they nerfed it+boosted mangle/shred a bit?
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2012-09-07, 02:42 PM #870Deleted
im not really too fussed, spamming rake was weird.
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2012-09-07, 03:50 PM #871Warchief
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yeah I was aswel, I felt dirty do it followed by "this is gonna get nerfed" Originally Posted by Oak-qt
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2012-09-07, 04:41 PM #872High Overlord
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They boosted Mangle and Shred a little. What I would like to know now, is how bad of a nerf was it? What I do know is any time our bleeds take a nerf our target switching is hurt even more. Originally Posted by wad
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2012-09-07, 05:05 PM #873High Overlord
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This was the part I think I misunderstood earlier, the way it seems to me is that they nerfed the initial strike with Rake, not the bleed ticks. They wanted the DoT to tick hard, but not the initial strike that grants a CP because it ended up doing more damage than shred or mangle and thus making them useless. Originally Posted by Tinderhoof
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2012-09-07, 07:37 PM #874Warchief
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Lets hope thats all they did *fingers crossed*
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2012-09-07, 08:16 PM #875Grunt
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Is the hotfix part of the class balance thread on battle.net? Looking for the actual value changes in both Rake and Shred.
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2012-09-07, 08:23 PM #876High Overlord
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They have not posted values yet. This seems to just be a hotfix. Really shocked they didn't let us have more fun with it. Just one tier I would like to be the OP class, instead of the class begging all tier for a buff.
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2012-09-07, 08:45 PM #877Warchief
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WHY DO YOU PEOPLE NEED TO REPORT EVERY SINGLE THING!?!?!?! DONT SAY ANYTHING!!! ok im done...Ill see myself out.
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2012-09-07, 09:40 PM #878High Overlord
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Better for us to report it now when there is a chance they will not break it outright. Or you know we could have a Repeat of T11 all over again where Blizzard over reacts and we nerfed into the ground and have to wait till T12 to be fixed. I will take the chance over the over-reaction thanks.
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2012-09-07, 10:16 PM #879Pit Lord
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That's not how rake is coded. The initial hit is the same as a DoT tick, aka they do the same damage. Originally Posted by Garth
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2012-09-07, 10:18 PM #880Deleted
so the bleed got nerfed or the inital strike of rake? if just the strike then everything is cool, target switching is like it was i guess
edit: just red Pawket's post, so my question, does rake hits sensibly less now?Last edited by mmoc0e71db9810; 2012-09-07 at 10:21 PM.
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