High-End Gaming Desktop ==Needing Advice

[CsMajor101]

One of my first endeavors is to build a Computer that will be worth its price and that will last for atleast a good 5yrs. I am just sick and tired of the computers I'm stuck using at the moment. Their way too slow and get clogged up with Registry errors way too quickly, along with just not having the computing power I need.
The only advice I really need is that :
1) Did I choose a good-enough PSU (Thermaltake 1050w) or do I need the 1350w?
2) Should I go with the Frio extreme CPU fan or the Bigwater CPU water cooling kit?
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3) Do you see anything thats obviously not compatible with something else?
4) Do you have any suggestions or upgrades?


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CPU----- Intel Core i7-3930K 3.20 GHz Processor - Socket R LGA-2011 $450-$700

Motherboard-- ASRock Fatal1ty X79 Professional ATX Intel Motherboard $270- $450

CPU Cooling System Fan------- Frio Extreme $100

Liquid---- Big Water 760 plus $150-175

RAM------ Corsair Provatage 4 x 8gb memory cards $440
(32 GB of ram)

Graphics----- MSI R7970 Lightning Radeon HD 7970 3GB 384-bit Video cards $500
PCI Express 3.0 x16

Audio---- ASUS Xonar Phoebus 24-bit 96KHz Interface Gaming Sound card $200
PCI Express x1

Optical Drive-- LG BD-DVD 12X SATA Black Bulk $75-$125

Hard Drive---- Momentus XT 750GB 7200 RPM 2.5' SATA 6.0Gb/s SSD Drive $180-$250

--------Optional -- Seagate 1TB USB 3.0 External Hard Drive $100

Case----- Thermaltake Level 10 Gt $280

Power Supply---- Thermaltake Toughpower Grand 1050w $270

OS-------------- Windows 7 Ultimate $270

Extras--------------

------Kill A Watt Outlet Electricity Usage Monitor ---------- $120
Logitech Wireless Gaming Mouse G700 $100
Corsair Vengeance K90 MMO Gaming Keyboard $120
Viewsonic 3D Backlit Monitor - 1920 x 1080 $280

Razor Megaladon Gamin Headset $180
Bose Companion Multimedia Speakers $250

[Lathais]

PSU is already far far overkill, could probably get by with a 500w easily, maybe need a 650w. Parts do not need as much power as they did 5 years ago.

Also, what is the intended use of this setup, just gaming? Video Rendering?

[n0cturnal]

Are you planning to add one or two more GPUs? Otherwise 1050W is complete overkill and something like 550W would be enough.
Why do you need 32GB RAM? Most gamers don't even utilize 8GB fully.
Why do you need a 6 core CPU? Do you do some serious rendering, computing or otherwise demanding multi-threaded work?
I don't think that Razer headset will do the $200 soundcard any justice.
What is the purpose of the Bluray burner? Most people hardy uses optical drives at all.
Get a proper SSD instead of the Momentus. It is much faster.
Why do you need Windows 7 Ultimate over Home Premium or Professional?
With this kind of budget I would get a better monitor, either a proper IPS or a better 120Hz if that is what you are in to.
The Big Water 760 gets beaten by air coolers such as Phanteks PH-TC14PE and Noctua NH-D14.

[jholdaway]

The few things I would change are your PSU and Optical drive.
Get a better brand like Seasonic or Corsair.
I don't see any reason to get a Blu-ray drive imho.
I also didn't see a SSD in the build. If you're spending that kind of money on a rig you should at least get one like http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820147193 or http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820148443

And $440 just for 32g of Ram?

[Nab]

As everyone pointed out, the PSU is way overkill. If your only purpose is gaming this build will be much better.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($124.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($47.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($91.33 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($129.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($437.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Corsair 650D ATX Mid Tower Case ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Enthusiast 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1277.24
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-22 11:02 EST-0500)

[Deleted]

Hmmm, if hes going with a 2011 setup plus a 7970 a 1050 will be overkill but a 550 is a bit to low i think, 650 at the minimum i would say.

Other than that i agree with Nab, although i would go for a 7970 (GHz edition) which is just personal preference.

[n0cturnal]

Hmmm, if hes going with a 2011 setup plus a 7970 a 1050 will be overkill but a 550 is a bit to low i think, 650 at the minimum i would say.

Other than that i agree with Nab, although i would go for a 7970 (GHz edition) which is just personal preference.

In Sweclockers test of a I7 3960X and a 7970 both overclocked their system only used 469W at full load.
That is measured at the wall so deduct 10% of that for PSU efficiency as well. So the real usage is more like 430W. A Quality 550W PSU is more than enough for that.

[CsMajor101]

Thanks for the input you guys. I got Classes so ill be back on here later.

BTW, Im a Computer Science Major and already demand a lot of power from my computers,
trying to build a near perfect computer that will last me threw the couple years of college I have ahead of me.

Keep on with the suggestions though, it'll really help me out

[n0cturnal]

Thanks for the input you guys. I got Classes so ill be back on here later.

BTW, Im a Computer Science Major and already demand a lot of power from my computers,
trying to build a near perfect computer that will last me threw the couple years of college I have ahead of me.

Keep on with the suggestions though, it'll really help me out

It is much better to save about 30-40% of your pretty large budget and upgrade in a few years than spending it all now.

[Idrinkwhiterussians]

You could seriously cut out some of the fluff on this build, but it is still ~$1200 less than what you have posted.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($309.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($80.72 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus SABERTOOTH Z77 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($239.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Gaming Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($154.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($219.99 @ Adorama)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 680 2GB Video Card ($449.99 @ Newegg)
Sound Card: Asus Xonar Phoebus 24-bit 96 KHz Sound Card ($193.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Silverstone FT02S-USB3.0 ATX Mid Tower Case ($229.00 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic X Series 760W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($159.00 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($15.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Dell U2412M 60Hz 24.0" Monitor ($309.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($135.98 @ Outlet PC)
Keyboard: Corsair Vengeance K90 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Mouse: Logitech G700 Wireless Laser Mouse ($69.94 @ Amazon)
Other: Samson Media ONE 5a Speakers ($199.99)
Other: Grado SR225i Headphones ($200.00)
Other: Zalman Clip on Mic ($9.40)
Total: $3153.92
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-22 11:39 EST-0500)

Edit: Updated the build as I made a quick oversight.

[n0cturnal]

You could seriously cut out some of the fluff on this build, but it is still ~$1200 less than what you have posted.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($309.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus SABERTOOTH Z77 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($239.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Gaming Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($154.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($219.99 @ Adorama)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 680 2GB Video Card ($449.99 @ Newegg)
Sound Card: Asus Xonar Phoebus 24-bit 96 KHz Sound Card ($193.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Silverstone FT02S-USB3.0 ATX Mid Tower Case ($229.00 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic X Series 760W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($159.00 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($15.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Dell U2412M 60Hz 24.0" Monitor ($309.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($135.98 @ Outlet PC)
Keyboard: Corsair Vengeance K90 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Mouse: Logitech G700 Wireless Laser Mouse ($69.94 @ Amazon)
Other: Samson Media ONE 5a Speakers ($199.99)
Other: Grado SR225i Headphones ($200.00)
Other: Zalman Clip on Mic ($9.40)
Total: $3183.19
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-22 11:35 EST-0500)

You are going to have a hard time fitting that H100 in a FT02 unless you want to remove the bottom fans.

[Idrinkwhiterussians]

You are going to have a hard time fitting that H100 in a FT02 unless you want to remove the bottom fans.

My oversight. Was just throwing it together quickly, will update the build.

Edit: Updated build in my post above.

[Woa]

The fuq does anyone need a 1350 w psu for. Run your microwave off it?

[n0cturnal]

The fuq does anyone need a 1350 w psu for. Run your microwave off it?

Quadfire 7970 or 4-way SLI GTX 680.

[Woa]

1: You're getting a PoS mouse. A mouse is very important for a gaming computer. Don't get that junk. Get a WIRED mouse. That crap has too <Snip>
3: You don't need a sound card.
4: Buy this keyboard: http://www.roccat.org/Products/Gamin...T-Ryos-MK-Pro/

Warning: Piracy is illegal and therefore suggesting it is against the forum rules.

[Idrinkwhiterussians]

1: You're getting a PoS mouse. A mouse is very important for a gaming computer. Don't get that junk. Get a WIRED mouse. That crap has too much lag. Unless you suck then it doesn't matter.
<Snip>
3: You don't need a sound card.
4: Buy this keyboard: http://www.roccat.org/Products/Gamin...T-Ryos-MK-Pro/

I/O is very much a personal preference. I put the build together above with that in mind. Also, the sound card listed (afaik) has a headphone amp. The quality produced by said amp will greatly improve the listening experience with high end headphones.

[OmegaV]

1: You're getting a PoS mouse. A mouse is very important for a gaming computer. Don't get that junk. Get a WIRED mouse. That crap has too much lag. Unless you suck then it doesn't matter.
< snip >
3: You don't need a sound card.
4: Buy this keyboard: http://www.roccat.org/Products/Gamin...T-Ryos-MK-Pro/

Huh, going to argue some points here
1. You know interesting thing about most wireless mouses now....you can also plug them in and run wired. Also I have a g500 so I highly recommend Logitech products.
< snip >
3. No argument here.
4. I also highly support Corsair products and the k90 is for the most part is a quality keyboard, some of the keys are just regular keys but they are the keys that are rarely used, F1 through F12, Esc, PrtScn, Scroll Lock, Pause/Break, Insert, Home, Page Up Page Down, Delete, and End. And with the fact it has G keys on the side I really doubt the lack of mechanical F1-12 is much of an issue.

[Uncle Julian]

There is a point in price-to-performance where you start paying loads of money for little increase in performance. With that processor you've definitely hit that line I'd say haha. Also it depends on what your computer is for. For gaming, that's all a little overkill. I personally like nVidia over AMD because of quality drivers and support. A single 670 or 680 would do fine in the next coming years. Also, the i5-3570k processor is pretty beastly. I would recommend just avoiding spin drives all together, and two SSD's in RAID 0 is disgustingly sick in a system (I have it :P). But if money isn't an issue, that's a sick system there.

I just built a completely new system from scratch 2 weeks ago, including 24 inch monitor and keyboard and $150 usd sound system, total was $1650 usd. Liquid cooling, 8gb of 1866 ram, 240gb SSD, i5-3570k at 4.4 GHz and 670 GTX. Send me a message if you want more details/parts list

[Seiz]

If you can afford the 3930k and the 2011 platform and it won't hurt your wallet then get it, theres a reason it comes with a premium price tag.

[n0cturnal]

If you can afford the 3930k and the 2011 platform and it won't hurt your wallet then get it, theres a reason it comes with a premium price tag.

And that reason is not gaming performance.