BiS Trinket lists.

[Xorn]

I took it upon myself to rank the trinkets by dps for each spec. Using the stat weights from Simcraft and the dps value of the trinket procs from Elitist Jerks I was able to make a rough approximation of each trinket's dps and rank them by spec.

Affliction
HCoC- 3776
HICM- 3386
CoC- 3378
HWoU- 3345
HVPL- 3049
ICM- 3018
CoC(LFR)- 2979
WoU- 2909
VPL- 2711
ICM(LFR)- 2604
WoU(LFR)- 2579
BW- 2397
RoZ- 2336
DMC:V- 2204
FGDL- 2101

Demonology
HCoC- 4021
HICM- 3407
CoC- 3551
HWoU- 3403
MWC- 3278
CoC(LFR)- 3153
HVPL- 3073
ICM- 3040
WoU- 3036
DMC:V- 2806
VPL- 2722
ICM(LFR)- 2696
WoU(LFR)- 2682
BW- 2635
FGDL- 2476
RoZ- 2248


Destruction
HCoC- 3579
HWoU- 3437
HICM- 3409
CoC- 3173
ICM- 3076
WoU- 3064
HVPL- 3060
CoC(LFR)- 2808
ICM(LFR)- 2800
WoU(LFR)- 2730
VPL- 2718
DMC:V- 2421
FGDL- 2252
BW- 2181
RoZ- 2122



Note: it is possible that in some situations some trinkets will surpass another. For example, the non-heroic WoU are rather low due to the fact that in a heavy movement fight it may be difficult to keep the up time close to 100% as it procs on on spell casts, and not damage. Also, the BiS Simcraft profile uses the HICM over the HCoC despite HCoC having better the better proc according to Simcraft. One possible explanation for this could be that on it's own the proc from HCoC is better, but when you take into account the haste already on your gear the HICM will push us over several tick thresholds and become superior.

At the same time, however, I imagine in any situation with multiple targets that HCoC will win out due to the massive cleave potential.

[gakpad]

I'll trust that these are accurate - may i steal the destruction portion for the sticky?

[Xorn]

I'll trust that these are accurate - may i steal the destruction portion for the sticky?

They should be, I simply added the proc dps to the dps gain from the raw stats determined by the stat weights given by Simcraft.

And go for it, just make sure to include the caveats about haste thresholds and aoe situations.

[Siafubringer]

If you cared to know what the "caviat" is: "Due to the increasing influence of various rating caps/thresholds, I've decided to change the way I evaluate trinkets in the OP. Depending on spec and gear level the value of each trinket can be strongly influenced by whether or not reforgeable stats let you hit some important stat threshold. This made the old charts inherently flawed, which turned out to be particularly problematic in this upcoming tier where several of the raid-level caster trinkets do not have reforgeable stats.

From now on the trinket evaluation charts will only take into account each trinket's dynamic proc, and will ignore any passive stats or ratings present on the item. Combining those results with scale factors and a knowledge of hit cap and haste thresholds should allow for much more informed trinket choices than the flawed information from the previous charts.

The Affliction chart is already in the OP, the other two specs' charts will populate as soon as the simulations have finished."

--Zakalwe

[gakpad]

Yeah someone asked earlier about a destro trinket list in the sticky and i was hesitant to for that exact same reason - haste thresholds. If people want a general idea though its a good reference

[Penguin FTW]

I haven't simmed anything yet, but is the 1000 int trinket seriously 1k behind shadowbolt volleys? What's the proc rate on that thing

[Xorn]

I haven't simmed anything yet, but is the 1000 int trinket seriously 1k behind shadowbolt volleys? What's the proc rate on that thing

Yeah, I'm not too sure on that one. The sim for the WoU for affliction was like 500 dps behind demo/destro so I'm not sure if I'm a simming error or what's going on there.

[gakpad]

Must be an error.

[Hellfury]

I mean its not really hard to keep the 10stacks of it even on Madness jumping u can just Felflame the next tentacle, and I cant seem to grasp how the SB spamming trinket can surpass a 990 static intelect. From Normal POV only way to lose stacks is on hagara between phases.

Unless the Cunning of the Cruel(SB spam) has a fantastic proc rate.

On ur list Insignia LFR is better than WoU normal made me wonder so Acording to my calcs using Aff Tier13 BIS state weighs int its 4.3869 and haste is 2.2783 values

Insignia LFR has 406 int passive and average of 858 haste so it totals 3735 DPS
Will of Unbiding normal is a passive 880 once full stacked that totals 3860 DPS

Thing is Simcraft may taking in account stacking of Insignia proc with DS and other buffs, and WoU still takes some rampup, but the values u presented seem wierd for Insignia LFR surpassing WoU normal

[Palmz]

Cunning of the Cruel doesn't do more damage with more than 1 target. Its a flat based proc but it can crit. Proc is good. Does about 10-12% of your total damage, but it isnt simming higher than WoU or Corrupted Mind (normal 397) with my gear.

[gakpad]

It's a cleave proc. Yes it does more with multiple targets.

[Palmz]

You're right I just tried it on the dummies in org. The way its posted on the tooltip it just looks like the damage is split.

Edit: Kind of ridiculous. Just crit all 4 dummies for 53k each. 212k from one proc unbuffed ><

[eb88]

what about Foul Gift of the Demon Lord ?
it has 378 ItemLvL like the Rune of Zeth.
The proc on this is 15% chance with a 20 second duration. ICD is 45 seconds.

EDIT: On Singletarget fights, is HCoC still better than HICM? Does it proc on your main target too?

[gakpad]

Yes it procs on your main target as well. It's a pretty overpowered trinket tbh, I wouldn't be surprised if it gets a slight nerf in the near future.

[kneeo]

Yes it procs on your main target as well. It's a pretty overpowered trinket tbh, I wouldn't be surprised if it gets a slight nerf in the near future.

Let's stop talking about how awesome it is now before they realize their mistake and make it terrible!

It'll be a reverse VPLC!

[Logbc]

CoC is redonk. I've seen it do 20+% of someone's total damage already.

[Nerraw]

CoC is redonk. I've seen it do 20+% of someone's total damage already.

O.o

I was needing on it pretty reluctantly in my LFR last night since I had no idea how much it would do. Seems like I need to put a little more conviction into it.

[Gobuchul]

The issue with affliction and WoU is that the stack quite easily falls off during the drain soul execute phase.

[Nerraw]

The issue with affliction and WoU is that the stack quite easily falls off during the drain soul execute phase.

Dot ticks don't proc it?

[Gobuchul]

They certainly don't in the simulator. I haven't personally been able to test it in-game, but it's pretty clearly implied by the tooltip that it's triggered by spell cast events, not damage events.