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I've heard somewhere that if BL is popped up while someone is not in the twilight world, that one doesn't gain BL buff itself and sated debuff either. Can someone confirm this? Wanna go with two bloodlusts, for dmg at the start, and for heals at ~5:00.
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2012-01-16, 08:33 AM #1The Patient
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Ultraxion 10 HC bloodlust
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English isn't my native, sorry for possible mistakes
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2012-01-16, 08:35 AM #2Bloodsail Admiral
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This is true.
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2012-01-16, 08:36 AM #3Blademaster
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Yup. We do this and it works great.
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2012-01-16, 08:37 AM #4High Overlord
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It's a common strat that most of the top end guilds do.
Pull boss, all the healers go straight into the portal
pop heroism/bloodlust for the DPS
later when healing gets tough, pop it again for them + anyone else who died get's a second one.
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2012-01-16, 08:46 AM #5Deleted
Extra tip: Whomever is getting blue can potentially stay in to keep healing so the raid doesn't all get low while the others are phased. You don't have to do this but it's an option to keep in mind if you get any issues.
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2012-01-16, 08:50 AM #6DeletedYeah saw that on Method´s stream last week too !! Their holy priest Phlaryu who also streamed did that right after pulling the boss on HC.
Originally Posted by Cyclonus
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2012-01-16, 09:17 AM #7Bloodsail Admiral
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Yeah, umm... Don't listen to this unless you have a disc priest getting blue, which means you should change your strategy anyway. Originally Posted by RavenGage
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2012-01-16, 09:19 AM #8Deleted
Yes it works. Confirmed on our 25 HC progress yesterday.
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2012-01-16, 09:25 AM #9The Patient
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Do you mean heroic will or entrance portal? Originally Posted by Cyclonus
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2012-01-16, 09:27 AM #10DeletedEntrance portal?? Are you kidding. Of course heroic will Originally Posted by Sir Nikotin
lol
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2012-01-16, 09:28 AM #11DeletedHeroic will Originally Posted by Sir Nikotin
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2012-01-16, 09:28 AM #12The Patient
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Thought so, but "top guild strats" can be very unusual Originally Posted by Megaira
Entrance portal?? Are you kidding. Of course heroic will lol
I just had to ask. Anyway, thanks all for confirmation.
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2012-01-16, 09:33 AM #13DeletedYeah that is true Originally Posted by Sir Nikotin
Thought so, but "top guild strats" can be very unusual I just had to ask.
They have sometimes pretty unusual tactics
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2012-01-16, 09:58 AM #14DeletedNice reasoning provided for your statement. You sir clearly know what you are talking about. What with such a solid argument and everything that you built up there, I couldn't help but be persuaded by the plethora of reasons you gave. Originally Posted by Obsession
Clearly you are right, if they are having issues with people dying (notice how I said to only do this if they have issues?) then it's obviously much better to let those people die just so an already GCD capped healer can get an extra 30% of near-useless haste. How could I not see this before? It makes so much sense!Last edited by mmocf1640b68b7; 2012-01-16 at 01:21 PM.
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2012-01-16, 10:14 AM #15Deleted
I don't think it was top guilds who found this heroism strategy first, but this guy: http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...0#post14586200
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2012-01-16, 10:19 AM #16DeletedWhat a smart guy then Originally Posted by Funkthepunk
I was thinking that this is yet another idea from one of the topguilds.
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2012-01-16, 10:40 AM #17Deleted
It's pretty common knowledge I thought, since in the very start (or rather after ~5 seconds) everyone will have all trinkets procced, probably all cooldowns blown and pots active, this will beat out execution phase DPS unless you have a raid full of affliction warlocks. This, plus the added fact that on Ultraxion the raid damage and thus casting interruption is happening only every ~5-8 seconds makes this the best time to use it. If you were to blow it during the execution phase on Ultraxion you'd have to use it just after the 6th one (at least, we popped <20% just before 6th so heroi'ing then would suck) and there'd be AoE nearly every second interrupting everything.
Long story short, yes, hero in start, yes let your healers phase out and hero just after the 6th hour.
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2012-01-16, 11:31 AM #18Blademaster
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We use this strat, but only I phase out (disc). The pally stays in since by the time we'd hero he has the blue buff anyway.
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2012-01-16, 01:15 PM #19Deleted
We attempted Ultrax last night after getting Hagara down and ended up at 8% before healers couldn't keep us up, granted we were using a healer with offspec dps and a dps as offspec tank which would have accounted for about 2% or so.
Would the extra benefit from popping hero at the start (and getting it along with all other cooldowns up) account for the last ~6%?
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2012-01-16, 01:19 PM #20Bloodsail Admiral
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possibly ye, since all your dps should have their CDs and procs lined up with the BL at start. Originally Posted by Nyxxi
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