[Megathread] DotA 2

[Deleted]

I was doing eh and enemy team had a Riki that was wrecking anyone in the cloud. Go figure, it was the easiest way to invalidate him, and saved more than a few of my teamies.

What are you trying to say? That you thought it was an important pickup? Wasn't that that what I just said?

[Drunkenvalley]

What are you trying to say? That you thought it was an important pickup? Wasn't that that what I just said?

For this one match it was definitely an important pick up, I've no shame saying that. It was, on several occasions, the difference between our carry dying or not. That's not even slight exaggeration. '-'

[PizzaSHARK]

Maybe I am. But if you build it on BH I'd say you are overestimating its value.

BH can get away with it because loltrack.

[Drunkenvalley]

Yeah, I was pretty much spending the game trying to contain Riki more than anything. I won't say it was a brilliant game and I imagine higher MMR folks cringe watching this game. http://dotabuff.com/matches/754868523

Didn't feel like I had much killing potential on anyone, so I fell back on "Let's not allow Riki to spin out of control". Make sure he was Tracked when possible, get a Force Staff that let me save allies from Smoke Cloud, etc.

[Deleted]

Yeah, I was pretty much spending the game trying to contain Riki more than anything. I won't say it was a brilliant game and I imagine higher MMR folks cringe watching this game. http://dotabuff.com/matches/754868523

Didn't feel like I had much killing potential on anyone, so I fell back on "Let's not allow Riki to spin out of control". Make sure he was Tracked when possible, get a Force Staff that let me save allies from Smoke Cloud, etc.

You saved Void once from dying because of Force Staff and you died because of it. And that was after your team had already taken top rax. If you still feel the item was an important pickup in that game after watching the replay I don't know what to tell you.

As I said, I think you overestimate it because I don't think picking up Force Staff in that game was important at all. It was a cute pickup. I'll give you that. And yes, that game made me cringe^^. Riki with Diffu and Skull Basher after 44 min is impressive.

[Sorcereria]

Riki with Diffu and Skull Basher after 44 min is impressive.

Thats like everyother game. Yestarday I had 160 last hits as shadow shaman by 35min (when we finished) with blink agh refresher. #1 had 150, I finished the game solo with blink ward raxing. Carry SS yuuup.

Heck, games that are not snowballed by either of the teams end up with #1 having 150last hits by 60min. /cry.

[minteK917]

There should always be one force staff on a team most of the time. If theres no natural force staff builder (invoker, od) it should be up to a support to make one. The reason why core go blinks is because its a better initiation tool, which is what you want from that slot. The support can force staff you out of shit. If you are in a pub and nobody build one, by all means build one if theres something that its needed for cough chronosphere cough. Neither items are in contest, both are mediocre at doing what the other one does.

[Jester Joe]

There should always be one force staff on a team most of the time. If theres no natural force staff builder (invoker, od) it should be up to a support to make one. The reason why core go blinks is because its a better initiation tool, which is what you want from that slot. The support can force staff you out of shit. If you are in a pub and nobody build one, by all means build one if theres something that its needed for cough chronosphere cough. Neither items are in contest, both are mediocre at doing what the other one does.

Or get both on Axe, not escaping these dunks.

[PizzaSHARK]

There should always be one force staff on a team most of the time. If theres no natural force staff builder (invoker, od) it should be up to a support to make one. The reason why core go blinks is because its a better initiation tool, which is what you want from that slot. The support can force staff you out of shit. If you are in a pub and nobody build one, by all means build one if theres something that its needed for cough chronosphere cough. Neither items are in contest, both are mediocre at doing what the other one does.

You can't move people trapped in Chronosphere.

[Jester Joe]

You can't move people trapped in Chronosphere.

Can you still hook them at least? Or is that a no go?

Kinda weird that you can't force staff people out...it seems reasonable to me at least.

[PizzaSHARK]

Can you still hook them at least? Or is that a no go?

Kinda weird that you can't force staff people out...it seems reasonable to me at least.

Nothing is reasonable about Chronosphere.

[Deleted]

Nothing is reasonable about Chronosphere.

It has 60 seconds cd with aghs not 120 like you said a few days ago.

[EqualWin]

crap I put like 40 cards on offering and I got 150 points and 1 axe set DD

[PizzaSHARK]

It has 60 seconds cd with aghs not 120 like you said a few days ago.

I said it needs to be 180 sec without agh's, 120 with agh's.

[Charge me Doctor]

Got disconnected in first 5 minutes of the game, reconnected, kept playing, mah team carried me to the skies, yay. Tusk had to problems laning against Razor tho.

[PizzaSHARK]

Got disconnected in first 5 minutes of the game, reconnected, kept playing, mah team carried me to the skies, yay. Tusk had to problems laning against Razor tho.

Had the opposite happen today. We had a Luna that refused to carry and basically did everything he possibly could to throw the game for us by killing couriers, killing himself, dropping obs in our fountain, carpeting the base with gg branches, etc. We started out way behind (I was a lvl 2 Sand King at like 9 minutes) because our lanes were awful (partly because, right before he went into bitch mode, the Luna was whining about not being able to farm against the enemy's very strong aggro tri), but we were able to recover and hold on for almost 45 minutes anyhow. The other guys said that if we'd had a full team, we'd probably have won.

Then again, I'm not surprised the Luna was acting like a brat since he was muted. I still don't know why muted people are allowed to play ranked. After all the tinkering they've done with the chat ban system, if you get chat banned, it's because you've got a serious fucking attitude problem... those folks probably shouldn't be allowed in ranked while they're doing their time-out. I have bad games from time to time where I get a little hot under the collar, but I've never, ever been chat banned ever since they restarted the system way back when.

[Deleted]

There should always be one force staff on a team most of the time. If theres no natural force staff builder (invoker, od) it should be up to a support to make one. The reason why core go blinks is because its a better initiation tool, which is what you want from that slot. The support can force staff you out of shit. If you are in a pub and nobody build one, by all means build one if theres something that its needed for cough chronosphere cough. Neither items are in contest, both are mediocre at doing what the other one does.

You're a perfect example of why I think people are overestimating Force Staff. You spend an entire post about how good it is only to give an example where the item doesn't work particularly well. If you valued it highly and used it often you'd know you can't Force Staff teammates out of Chronosphere but only the Void himself but that's nearly useless since Void has high movement speed in Chrono.

[Charge me Doctor]

Had the opposite happen today. We had a Luna that refused to carry and basically did everything he possibly could to throw the game for us by killing couriers, killing himself, dropping obs in our fountain, carpeting the base with gg branches, etc.

Lol, our Void on easy lane was like "guys help top pls" when i disconnected, when i reconnected and we've got showed up to our tower (and enemy Jakiro was "stealing" our creeps through the jungle) Void was like "well, i hope Slardar will be able to carry this game, because i won't". Then he dinged 6 and with proper usage of his ult on greedy Jakiro (he was pulling our creeps near small camp on dire side and moved them to their creeps near their tower), he've got a kill and enemy chilled out. Then couple of ganks from mid, i've got gold (because i wasn't actually a ward bitch, for the whole game i bought like, 3 sets of wards) to get mah bracer soul ring boots and shit and we raeped them in teamfights (chrono+death ward works so good). Probably i'll quite SC2 for more games in dota because of it. Oh, forgot to mention.

When enemy Seer vacuumed our whole team +100500 creeps into a wall (we all were blocked by our creeps and enemy creeps surrounded us as well as illisuions and enemy heroes) i thought it was a team wipe. Well, i was wrong. ECHO SLAM. RAMPAGE.

[veiledy0]

This new Invoker set... WOW. Pls donate.

[Jester Joe]

This new Invoker set... WOW. Pls donate.

Which one? The one that makes him look more like a curtain, or less like one? :P