Problem is russians arent bad , they are many !
Valve stated clearly ukraineans playing dota is same as americans , and thats 1 country .
Go figure there is all russia + plenty of ex ussr countries which speak russian . So thats a lot of russians .
So if bad players are around 20% ? russian 20% is waaaaaaaay bigger >>>>>>> then any other nation's 20% .
And also often when wining people dont bother "notice" they won due to russians . Only when they lose they tend to see it .
Happens very often enemy team when loosing saying : gg won thanks to oure x y (being russian) and oure replay usually is : to bad only 2/5 , we are 5/5 russians and we won .
I get often credit and congratz for wining the game very often , but not a single time for wining it as russian player .
And i get blamed 100% of the times when loosing for being russian .
People tend to remember this only when they want it . Oh well ...
I've played with Russians a lot. Sometimes they're good, sometimes they're bad. My main gripe is rarely with how they play, but rather that they're usually completely unwilling to try and communicate.
This can be really annoying indeed, but it's not related to Russians only. I don't mind someone making mistakes or feeding (unintentionally), but when I use the setting to be matched only with people who speak English I expect the others to do the same and queue only for the regions/languages they know/want to communicate in. I mean the only thing worse that a Pudge that can't land a hook to save his life is a Pudge that can't land a hook to save his life who constantly spams the chat in Russian, Portuguese, Spanish, Chinese or whatever other langue that the other 4/5th of his team don't understand.
The most infuriating is getting 4/5 Russians and not one of them understand English, or flat out don't care. I'm only queued for English, mind you...
This discussion kind of relates to what I was trying to say in this post and then expanded on in this post. Not speaking/refusing to speak English does not automatically make a player bad, but it can be very frustrating when you can't communicate with half of your team because they do/will not speak English. It gets even more frustrating when you can't communicate with them and they are lousy players, because then you can't even attempt to help them. I'm more than happy to try to teach new players (I'm pretty sure I even have a couple of teaching commendations!), but I can't when we don't speak the same language.
Like you guys said, this is completely avoidable if they'd just set their preferred language, but plenty don't.
Last edited by noteworthynerd; 2013-09-13 at 12:28 PM.
Meh nationality has little to do with actual skill of the player, also they got matched with you so chances are they are of equal skill anyway.
Communication is all I want. Only the other day I had some Russian mid laning and he kept saying stuff in Russian on his mic and never called missing. Near the end of the match when the blame game started one of the other players chimed in (who spoke English but also understood Russian) and mentioned that he had been calling missing. In Russian.
That's what annoys me.
What it comes down to is the Russians have their own servers and yet they play on the eu east/west servers and fuck over people that are trying to communicate in English.
Yes, but a lot of the people that get called 'Russians' aren't necessarily from Russia, just a Russian-speaking (or another language that uses cyrillic) country. Consider that TI3 had almost 2 teams worth of players from Ukraine, which is almost as many as Americans. Now consider that all Ukrainian Dota 2 players almost outnumber all American players and suddenly it's pretty hard to use TI3 representation to make an argument for nationality having anything to do with skill.
Last edited by Hermanni; 2013-09-14 at 05:00 AM.
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What kind of communication you want in game? Chat talks? Answering stupid questions like "Omg void are you stupid? MoM? lololol". There is ping system and chat wheel, that's enough to communicate in pub game. Actually, a lot of time i would like to report people for overusing this features (spamming pings? anyone not annoyed by this?), or seeing the "mid is missing" line, while there IS freaking enemy on middle line. It's distracting.
Pub games isn't about communication. Dota overall is, but not pub games where you get 4 random people in your team, who don't gives a shit about picks and synergy, who don't even cares about teammates and when and how some have to engage or even basic tactic for next 4 minutes of the game. If you want communication in game, you should get 4 more people from your friendlist and play.
If you try to get at least some communication in pub game, it won't work for a lot of a time because you are just a random person for other players, but people from friendlist usually don't think this way and communication will work with them much better
Last edited by Charge me Doctor; 2013-09-14 at 04:24 AM.
Originally Posted by Urban Dictionary
It's called thrashtalk, you, often, don't need to know what everyone is saying over voice, probably they are communicating with their friends who they qued with.
Usually i don't hear people using voice chat, but when i've tried american servers (to check out ping) i've got two people who spammed glyphs is chat, and other two talked in chat about getting to the party tomorrow
Originally Posted by Urban Dictionary
Made it to Day 2 of the tourney I was playing in this weekend, went 6-1 in group stages, amateur cup with no prize money but still a lot of fun, grp stages were BO1's now time for some BO3's!
Top 8 teams made it to Day 2 only ^_^