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    Arizona outlaws funding to Planned Parenthood.

    Arizona Governor Jan Brewer on Friday signed into law a bill banning abortion providers like Planned Parenthood from receiving money through the state, her office said in a statement.

    The Republican-backed Whole Woman's Health Funding Priority Act cuts off funding for family planning and health services delivered by Planned Parenthood clinics and other organizations offering abortions.

    "By signing this measure into law I stand with the majority of Americans who oppose the use of taxpayer funds for abortion," Brewer said in a statement.
    Arizona joins six other states with similar laws, officials said. But three of those states -- Indiana, Kansas and North Carolina -- are facing legal challenges.
    Arizona does not provide tax dollars for abortion, but backers said the law is needed to make sure that no indirect monies are funneled to organizations like Planned Parenthood that provide abortion and other health services. There were no estimates of how much money is involved.

    I am FUMING over this. I am so angry, I have never used fuck so many times in my status update on facebook (lol). I seriously cannot believe this.

    http://news.yahoo.com/arizona-bans-f...032512974.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElfinHilon10 View Post
    I am FUMING over this. I am so angry, I have never used fuck so many times in my status update on facebook (lol). I seriously cannot believe this.

    http://news.yahoo.com/arizona-bans-f...032512974.html

    I fail to see the argument on how this is not proper. Taxpayers money should NEVER be used to pay for someone to get an abortion because someone couldnt keep their legs closed or be more responsible. If someone wants an abortion ok fine fair enough. But it should come out of THEIR pocket, not state money funneled by the taxpayers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shoukyaku View Post
    I fail to see the argument on how this is not proper. Taxpayers money should NEVER be used to pay for someone to get an abortion because someone couldnt keep their legs closed or be more responsible. If someone wants an abortion ok fine fair enough. But it should come out of THEIR pocket, not state money funneled by the taxpayers.
    Like we are doing with our current healthcare system? Guess we should totally scrap that too and let everyone die from preventable diseases!

    And when you are poor and this country has the WORST sexual education ever with abstinence? Yeah, right. Have fun with that one and all the healthcare related costs. Clearly do not know anything about how healthcare works. ROFL


    EDIT: You also missed the point completely. She outlawed funding to Planned Parenthood. Not just the abortion part, which is a mere 3%, but ALL of it. All of the healthcare related costs it provides to women. That ALONE saves nearly a billion dollars in healthcare related costs. So full of fail.
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    Arizona needs to secede, seriously.

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    Good job Arizona. Keep being fucking awful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shoukyaku View Post
    I fail to see the argument on how this is not proper. Taxpayers money should NEVER be used to pay for someone to get an abortion because someone couldnt keep their legs closed or be more responsible. If someone wants an abortion ok fine fair enough. But it should come out of THEIR pocket, not state money funneled by the taxpayers.
    If you say that I could do the same thing

    Taxpayer's money should never been pay for education because not everybody has children;
    Taxpayer's money should not pay for war because not everybody believes attacking random country's benefit the country as a whole;
    Taxpayer's money should never be spend on roads because businesses benefit the most from a healthy and good infrastructure so they should just build roads for themselves;
    Taxpayer's money should never be spend on healthcare because if people can't watch out for themselves they deserve to die;
    Taxpayer's money should never be spend on social fall back programs because not everybody loses their job and if you don't have a job you need to search harder, and if you still can't find a job you should just starve or some random stranger will help you;

    here all of the budget problems have been fixed because now you don't have to worry about any spending by the government.......

    Religion should stay out of politics and should not be a decision when making choices. You rarely will find anybody fully agreeing on all of the spending done by the government but that is precisely why personal religious believes have no true place in politics.

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    Arizona, again, lives up to it's title of "Meth lab of Democracy"

    No wonder we have politicians being recalled and disbarred left and right. And I hope the wrinkled old hag is next. Surprised she hasn't accidentally offed herself with a butter knife yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ati87 View Post

    Religion should stay out of politics and should not be a decision when making choices. You rarely will find anybody fully agreeing on all of the spending done by the government but that is precisely why personal religious believes have no true place in politics.
    The only solution to your "problem" is to bar anyone who subscribes to a religion from office. Everyone's bias's and predilections play a role in how they make decisions, you just don't like theirs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ati87 View Post
    If you say that I could do the same thing

    Taxpayer's money should never been pay for education because not everybody has children;
    Taxpayer's money should not pay for war because not everybody believes attacking random country's benefit the country as a whole;

    Taxpayer's money should never be spend on roads because businesses benefit the most from a healthy and good infrastructure so they should just build roads for themselves;
    Taxpayer's money should never be spend on healthcare because if people can't watch out for themselves they deserve to die;
    Taxpayer's money should never be spend on social fall back programs because not everybody loses their job and if you don't have a job you need to search harder, and if you still can't find a job you should just starve or some random stranger will help you;

    here all of the budget problems have been fixed because now you don't have to worry about any spending by the government.......

    Religion should stay out of politics and should not be a decision when making choices. You rarely will find anybody fully agreeing on all of the spending done by the government but that is precisely why personal religious believes have no true place in politics.
    Bolded what I actually believe to be a geneuine idea that I would agree with.
    Itallic is just plain ridiculous.

    Abortions should not be paid for by the state, it's not a disease you caught just by breathing or shaking someone's hand.
    It's not cancer.
    It's a feotus. Your responsibility => you pay for it.

    Sounds simple enough to me.

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    Everyone here hates me because i'm white thanks to La Razza, and now my GF won't be able to get an IUD with AHCCSS (boo hoo I know). It's also annoyingly hot... someone get me out of here please, i'm thinking Washington =D

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    Quote Originally Posted by eriseis View Post
    Arizona needs to secede, seriously.
    They have their own state militia ready to go now. I say cut them loose. When they go bankrupt they can wage war with Mexico for resources. Their shit is already indiscernable from Mad Max as it is.
    Last edited by Callace; 2012-05-05 at 09:42 AM.

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    We already do wage war with Mexico, poor economy along with us being pricks has made immigration to virtually 0 if you count immigrants leaving the US; certain immigrants anyway, you know the ones.

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    Abortion already wasn't being covered by the state, though I fail to see why a legal medical procedures should or shouldn't be covered based on people's religious beliefs.

    So all Arizona has done is cut off cancer screening and women's health care for poor women. Good job. Keep fighting the good fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wells View Post
    Abortion already wasn't being covered by the state, though I fail to see why a legal medical procedures should or shouldn't be covered based on people's religious beliefs.

    So all Arizona has done is cut off cancer screening and women's health care for poor women. Good job. Keep fighting the good fight.
    I'm still waiting for them to institute mandatory veils.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firebane View Post
    Bolded what I actually believe to be a geneuine idea that I would agree with.
    Itallic is just plain ridiculous.

    Abortions should not be paid for by the state, it's not a disease you caught just by breathing or shaking someone's hand.
    It's not cancer.
    It's a feotus. Your responsibility => you pay for it.

    Sounds simple enough to me.
    Lul. The things you did in bold are things that are MANDATORY to be a 1st world country. Period. There is no way around it. Social programs as well. The better the standard of living, the better your people are. All of these contribute to that (aside from taxing for war, but that is a different story all together) and help to make your nation grow. Regardless, again, Planned Parenthood only uses about 3% of funding for abortions. YOU are costing other taxpayers millions and millions more in money by NOT funding Planned Parenthood. These are FACTS, not opinions. End of story, and until you can grasp that simple concept, please do not try to argue back with people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karosene View Post
    Arizona, again, lives up to it's title of "Meth lab of Democracy"

    No wonder we have politicians being recalled and disbarred left and right. And I hope the wrinkled old hag is next. Surprised she hasn't accidentally offed herself with a butter knife yet.
    If it makes you feel any better my mother works at the state capital and she's usually in the same elevator, and apparently she smells really badly... so you know, just a plus.

    Oh and btw, my meth lab is a socialist =)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xicross View Post
    We already do wage war with Mexico, poor economy along with us being pricks has made immigration to virtually 0 if you count immigrants leaving the US; certain immigrants anyway, you know the ones.
    We could be as big of douches as it were theoretically possible to be and if the money was good enough they would still try and find a way in. Change the border to being completely open and without corresponding economic improvements you wouldn't be likely to see a change in the immigration pattern.


    Quote Originally Posted by Xicross View Post
    If it makes you feel any better my mother works at the state capital and she's usually in the same elevator, and apparently she smells really badly... so you know, just a plus.
    I'm sure she goes crying herself to sleep at night knowing your mother thinks she smells bad. Then she remembers she's the governor of a state. Hell if anything it should make him feel worse knowing that not only do people around her have to deal with a shitty person, but a shitty person that smell's bad too.


    Quote Originally Posted by Kivimetsan View Post
    Nothing to see here, OP wants his free abortions and welfare state to keep tearing the country apart.
    When will people realize the reason the US is in such huge debt is because it keeps providing all this entitlement/welfare crap that is totally unconstitutional. Keep relying on government from cradle to grave, they will eventually own you.
    Now that you're done regurgitating that inane talking point read from whatever republican pamphlet you got it from maybe you could take a moment to notice that organizations like PP provide medical care and preventative measures to many people that by and large saves the economy money in the long run. Money out of your pocket because those same people would be shoved through an emergency room, it's the law!, to get poorer treatment at a higher cost. And as mentioned before abortion services are already not funded by the money that they do get from the government.
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    Nothing to see here, OP wants his free abortions and welfare state to keep tearing the country apart.
    When will people realize the reason the US is in such huge debt is because it keeps providing all this entitlement/welfare crap that is totally unconstitutional. Keep relying on government from cradle to grave, they will eventually own you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shoukyaku View Post
    I fail to see the argument on how this is not proper. Taxpayers money should NEVER be used to pay for someone to get an abortion because someone couldnt keep their legs closed or be more responsible. If someone wants an abortion ok fine fair enough. But it should come out of THEIR pocket, not state money funneled by the taxpayers.
    In many situations, getting an abortion is the responsible thing to do and the whole "keep your legs closed" argument is as archaic as the old fucks who run the Republican party. The problem with this law is that it hurts family planning organizations as a whole. So yeah, no state money for abortions... but that also means no state money for contraception, STD testing, prevention, and treatment, and many other services that are usually provided free to low-income people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xicross View Post
    We already do wage war with Mexico, poor economy along with us being pricks has made immigration to virtually 0 if you count immigrants leaving the US; certain immigrants anyway, you know the ones.
    Oh, they won't be just waging an economic war by the time they're set free, they'll be doing hit and fades with IEDs over gasoline. Al Qaeda is alive and well in the american southwest.
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