Why do people disrespect the President?

[psdew1813]

http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/Global/...asp?S=12224521

I was trying to avoid using 'illegal alien'... but if you force my hand... there you go... enjoy your reading.

yes lets just call all of them border crossing murderers. cause to you that seems to be all they are. I'm done talking to you.

[Seranthor]

the reason he told us to go in there was for NUKES! not chemical weps we already gave him.

they went looking for WMDs.. of which Nukes qualify... either way... if Bush lied then Kerry lied too... as did the Senate and House intelligence committees as they agreed with the findings as well, as well as every major foreign intelligence agency... God how I love how revisionist history is so easy to disassemble.

[Zelk]

I agree with the Muslim and Kenyan but if you really think it's that much of a stretch to call him a socialist you've got some problems.

You're making yourself look silly to Europeans. See in most European countries Obama would be considered right wing. I hope you never read up on the Labour Party, or god forbid Francois Hollande's party.

[ptwonline]

Loaded language that is racist in nature?

You're reaching. I've said nothing that isn't factual.

Sorry--I wasn't talking about YOU in particular.

But you (and by "you" I mean "someone") can be 100% factual and still use loaded language to convey a different meaning or quality to the facts that are being presented.

[Karazee]

There is a middle ground between absurd name calling and "blindly applaud and cheer for everything the leadership does". You can be critical of people without resorting to name calling and outright lying. Attack policy all you want but leave the personal attacks out of it imo.

Insults are what someone resorts to when they can't substantiate their side of the argument with facts. It's not specific to the presidency. Happens every day all over the place.

[Cthulhu 2020]

The Far right has gone off the deep end and respect for a democrat? gah!! it goes against our moral values to even think of giving this man a little common decency.

It speaks volumes when the stated goal of the republican party is not to fix the economy or healthcare or social security or the infrastructure or wall street or the economic imbalance or the myraid of other things that are broken. The first goal of the gop is to make Obama a one term president.

If Romney wins this election, it's going to be proof positive that the American people can be bought and/or brainwashed with enough money sunk into campaigning.

[Ausr]

You should respect the office, even if you don't particularly like the man in office. I didn't care for Bush but if I was invited to an event where I met him, I'd be honored. I don't get the same feeling from a lot of Republican politicians these days or reporters.

[ptwonline]

I belive its ok to disrespect the person, however respect should be given the the position / office

Yup, and there is a difference.

For example, when Tim Thomas (Boston Bruins goalie) refuses to go to the White House with the rest of his teammates like all sports team champions do, he's not really disrespecting Obama. You see, Obama is not the reason why the team is going. The team is going to see The President who as the elected leader of the country will give the collective congratulations on behalf of the citizens of the United States of America. By refusing to go he is disrespecting the office and everyone who is part of the democratic process that put him in that office.

[Schattenlied]

Yup, and there is a difference.

For example, when Tim Thomas (Boston Bruins goalie) refuses to go to the White House with the rest of his teammates like all sports team champions do, he's not really disrespecting Obama. You see, Obama is not the reason why the team is going. The team is going to see The President who as the elected leader of the country will give the collective congratulations on behalf of the citizens of the United States of America. By refusing to go he is disrespecting the office and everyone who is part of the democratic process that put him in that office.

No, sorry. He doesn't like obama, he isn't going to see him, simple as that.

[Tinykong]

Sorry--I wasn't talking about YOU in particular.

But you (and by "you" I mean "someone") can be 100% factual and still use loaded language to convey a different meaning or quality to the facts that are being presented.

That's the hyper sensitive, looking for a problem where there isn't one attitude that's so pervasive.

Is a black person calling Bush a liar during a speech racist? How about a black person calling Obama a liar?

[ptwonline]

No, sorry. He doesn't like obama, he isn't going to see him, simple as that.

Championship teams go to see The President. Obama just happens to be The President right now. By refusing it's disrespect to the people who elected him. Tim Thomas may feel that disrespect is deserved, but I suspect a lot of people don't.

[Faery]

You should never disrespect the President, no matter how much you dislike him. It's called manners.

[ptwonline]

That's the hyper sensitive, looking for a problem where there isn't one attitude that's so pervasive.

Is a black person calling Bush a liar during a speech racist? How about a black person calling Obama a liar?

Being called a liar is not a common tactic or prejudicial label attached primarily to certain races, AFAIK, and so that likely wouldn't be considered racist.

However, even though using the term "liar" may not be racist, actually having the willingness to cross the line to actually do it certainly could be rooted in racism, though is not necessarily so.

[Ozzy1346]

because we have freedom of press/speech and as long as you are not threatening his life then who gives a shit. remember all the crap people talked about Bush?

[Tinykong]

Being called a liar is not a common tactic or prejudicial label attached primarily to certain races, AFAIK, and so that likely wouldn't be considered racist.

However, even though using the term "liar" may not be racist, actually having the willingness to cross the line to actually do it certainly could be rooted in racism, though is not necessarily so.

I'd agree that it could be racist, but I certainly don't think that it was or should be considered so.

[Giants41]

I feel you, i don't necessarily like Obama but he is the figurehead of my country so i respect him. I never really badmouth him although we have the right to.

[ddk]

It's saying they want to "support" him by hanging him. How could you not see that?

Are you sure about that? He was the governor for a long time before president and presided over lots of executions. Perhaps it means, "Support Bush and you're a killer too."

[Drakain]

Presidents are big boys, they won't get their feeling hurt. Insults tend to say more about the person making them that the person their directed at, anyway.

For what it's worth, when I feel compelled to make a negative comment, like if I find something stupid for example, I try to identify things that people do that are stupid rather than say the people themselves are stupid. I don't think people notice or even care for the distinction.

[Merkava]

You're making yourself look silly to Europeans. See in most European countries Obama would be considered right wing. I hope you never read up on the Labour Party, or god forbid Francois Hollande's party.

I think the EU has a charter that begins with the words "His Majesty the King of the Belgians..." Ours begins with "We the People..." How many countries in Europe still have a state religion? We've had a separation of church and state since our inception. When your queen dies, her son, the idiotic Prince Charles, who goes to classes on Islam and talks to trees will become not just the head of state but the head of your state church. As Hitchens would say, that's what you get for founding a religion on the family values of Henry VIII.

We think you're a little silly too.

[Laize]

I'm fed up with it. People saying "Deport Barry 2012," "Liar in Chief," "Sultan in Chief," "Dumbo," "Gaybama," "The Kenyan," "Our Terrorist Leader," "The Lyin' King." I really could go on forever with the insults that have been spewed out against President Obama. The people doing so should be ashamed of themselves, just like the people that say he is a Muslim, he wasn't born in the United States, or that he never went to college. I mean, what is wrong with the people that think that. First off, his religion should not matter (even though he is a Christian, he obviously had to be born in the United States (do you really think the Secret Service or FBI would NOT conduct an investigation to make sure of it?), and obviously he went to college (they don't hire anyone to be a constitutional law professor at the University of Chicago Law School).

Its one thing to not like the President, and thats the fine. We all have our political views. But to disrespect the President is absolutely disgusting and anyone that does it shouldn't call themselves an American. I dont care about our 1st amendment rights, I am not saying they should be punished, I am just saying they don't deserve to call themselves Americans.

People who think others should not use their 1st Amendment rights are the ones who shouldn't call themselves American.

See, in the America that I live in, you can use your 1st Amendment rights to say whatever the hell you want about the President. It's your right to be offended or appalled at my statements. It's also your right to think I shouldn't call myself an American for saying such things about the President. We are both equally expressing our 1st Amendment rights and we are both American because of it.