very helpful thankyou
very helpful thankyou
I have an LFR glove token, is it worth replacing my 496 Tsulong (parry/expertise) gloves with the LFR tier which would give me my 2 set bonus? The bonus does look quite good.
Ah cool, thanks
Idk.... the set gloves are kind of shitty and it's also a 20 ilvl downgrade - and then the 2pc is somewhat situational.
The 2pc is only situational if you are thinking about situations where you don't need CDs, which is low dmg content where the 20 ilvl won't matter anyway.
I guarantee there are more fights than H will that can take advantage of reduced VB cd. Namely, any of them with meaningful damage. Iconic ones that come to mind: blade lord, Sha, Elegon, Will (as you already mentioned), it's HUUUUGE on grand empress ph2 (especially on heroic), on lei shi, and more-so on the heroic versions of all these fights.
Any fight that provides consistent tank damage will benefit from the 2 set, realisticly. With a 40 sec cooldown, it is almost never worth holding on to it, unless you're absolutly sure you'll need it - you'll spend too much time holding on to it, and miss it. On the other hand, due to DK's wide array of cooldowns, using VB on CD is perfectly viable, and will help the healers, along with your own mitigation on any fight (higher DS, higher blood shield). When you've got BS, DRW, IBF, Army, ERW, Necropolis, AMS, and Purgatory+Death pact, "losing" vamp blood to make your healers lifes that much easier seems fairly insignificant. The only fight I can think of where you'd want to hold out on it would be Garajal (no point using it if not tanking), and sha (same concept).
Blade Lord?
The 35-40 sec between each of his strikes pretty much allows you to only use VB efficiently once every 70 seconds unless you go out of your way just to make use of a second VB by asking your co-tank to wait another 20 seconds before taunting. (and even then you still wouldn't get that many extra uses out of the 2pc). Besides idk about 25H but on 10H his damage is laughable to the point where you can actually tank him without needing any direct heals.
The same thing goes for Sha - you're on his platform for about 90 seconds at a time meaning you'll have a hard time getting a 3rd use of VB even with the 2pc.
On will heroic it works well because the combos are about 50 seconds apart meaning you pretty much get twice as many uses of VB with the 2pc.
Now the question is if it's actually worth going for the bonus at the cost of using low level set gloves if basically all you get is 3% more healing taken overall.
Last edited by Nillo; 2013-01-07 at 12:02 PM.
496 has these stats over teir assuming stam/mastery gem
235 stam
160 mastery
124 avoidence stat
12 accuracy ( note however that it gives expertise which is worth less than the hit that tier gives.)
That isnt exactly.... huge.
~.25% avoidence
~3k health. .4% of 700k
Negligible expertise
160 mastery
Vs 3.3% healing.
Go with tier
I was thinking of Heroic blade lord where you trade off every OA. that's my bad. You may remove normal blade lord off that list of fights.
It's more than just 3.3% overall healing. Left unglyphed the EH gained from VB is fantastic. Every 40s you can increase your health by 15% for 10 seconds, which can be thought of as 15% dmg reduction in most situations.
He does his ability about every 45 seconds. If you are trading every other OA (which you should be) you can use VB on every one with 2pc. You couldn't do this with the normal 1m CD.
*sigh*
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that's 30-33 seconds not 45 besides it wouldn't be any different with 45 seconds because it would still be ready exactly once per tanking swap with or without 2pc.
Fair enough I was mistaken. You may remove both versions of blade lord from that list.
Ok, lets be entirely clear here. If you don't need the cooldown reduction, even used on cd, it doesn't matter which you use. Other damage goes out on bladelord other than tank damage and having vamp blood up, even while not tanking, is valuable.
If your cooldowns aren't needed to survive boss mechanics, they should be used on CD to help the healers. Else they're just sitting there.
Well in the case of blade lord you wouldn't want to use it off cd since you do want it up on every OA. Using CDs while youre not tanking is also not generally recommended, as raid wide damage on you isn't worth blowing CDs unless you will have them back again before you tank something.
So you recommend wasting cooldown for a phase where there's no damage going on that can even break your blood shield? (The only raid damage that can hit you on that fight is his cleave which is laughable on a tank)
Like this you basically get less uses out of VB than you actually would because you use it when you don't even need it and don't have it up while you're tanking the boss °_°