I've never healed that's funny. It's not actually the same concept because I don't actually smash the hammer down on a low health bar.
Edit - I was just mentioning I had never heard of it and I apologized for my ignorance in the previous post.
Either you care more about yourself or you care more about your guild.
If you care more about yourself, best thing to do is gquit and find a new guild where you can heal full time.
If you care more about your guild, you will do whatever is best for the guild, which sounds like both healing and dpsing, and quit caring so much about your numbers.
Guild that tries to force me (or anyone) into a role that I don't want to do, is a guild that I won't stay in for long. I play for my own amusement, thank you. I play Elemental and that's that.
Last edited by Santti; 2012-10-14 at 05:34 PM.
Im actually going to remember that. Ive been in situations like that. Very few times I've put my foot down and said no or not tonight. My last guild had me bouncing between tank and heals. Being a Druid and having 4 specs is a lot to ask for if they want me to bounce between different specs. Not to mention paying for talent changes. But I'm going to remember what you said. I wanna tank damnit and thats it lol.
Well wow i missread that, if you want to heal then heal and tell your witty dps to suck it up
The only thing I have to add is to advise you to step back and decide what's the most important thing: Serving the interests of your guild or playing the way you wish to play. Once you have that clear in your mind, you will know what to do.
"...money's most powerful ability is to allow bad people to continue doing bad things at the expense of those who don't have it."
I think that evens out because I think most people would never join a guild that expects them to play a spec that they don't enjoy at all. I enjoy playing all the specs of my class, but if I didn't and my guild insisted that I play the one I didn't like I'd refuse. Guild progression is great and all, but I don't pay $15/mo to not enjoy my experience.
It's amazing how many people make it sound selfish that I'd like to play the spec I am best at and the spec that I have the most fun in - IN A VIDEO GAME.
A team doesn't have the quarterback play a lineman just because he CAN. A raid team shouldn't make a great healer go play dps just because he CAN.
If there was a "pure" healing class - I WOULD BE IT. It's what I have the most fun doing.
I do kind of understand where they're coming from. They're playing WoW on a hardcore level and haven't taken a step back and looked at it in awhile. I used to be that way. I used to be in a very successful raiding guild, realm firsts left and right, etc. All serious business all the time (I was young then.) ... and then I took 7 months off and it hit me just how silly all that stuff is. Play games for fun, not as a second job. If you enjoy healing and don't enjoy DPSing, then just tell your guild that you're only going to heal. If they don't like it they can replace you, if they replace you it won't be terribly difficult for you to find another guild.
I don't get these people that think knowing what you want, and what you're good at, and trying to play to those strengths and desires is somehow not helping out your guild. I actually have a bit of a problem with people that come to me and say "What do you want me to play?" My response is always to play what they're best at and we'll work around that. These people are almost always a little confused, like having a choice in the matter is a foreign concept or something.
Tell your guild you're a stronger healer than you are a dps, and that you don't enjoy playing as a dps. They'll accommodate you and have a stronger team for it as well as a loyal healer, or you'll go find a guild that would be glad to have you.
Now keep in mind that everything I just said goes completely out the window if you're a far better dps than you are a healer.
If we're talking professional leagues, no. But those professional leagues will swap someone out for a backup if need be; they adjust the roster based on the needs of the team.
If we're talking friendly local leagues, if your team needs a lineman and there's two people who can play quarterback, one of you is going to be the lineman today. Or you're going to come off as being petulant.
It's a video game, but it's a social, multiplayer, cooperative video game. So demanding that you get to play your way at the cost of the team's enjoyment is what makes it selfish. It doesn't really matter what kind of social environment you put that attitude in.
If you really don't want to DPS, find a guild that needs a healer 100% of the time. If you're not willing to leave your guild, then you need to accept the consequences of your own choice, not complain about them. There is literally nothing holding you in that situation except yourself.
I just pretended to be really bad at healing and tanking in my old guild. Gotta never let 'em see you do the things you don't want to do, or else they might get wise. Kinda backfired when my guild needed tanks and healers and I was all like, guys I'll do it, and they were like LOL NO. Didn't even give me a chance. Oh well.
My guild now is too bad and casual to have spec requests, restraints, and requirements, so I don't mind tanking every once in awhile, but I just keep my tank kit badly optimized so I can say "Oh I haven't worked on my tank kit in awhile, guys!" Or, like, I went feral DPS, or something.
Last edited by Pascal; 2012-10-14 at 06:26 PM.
I dont know your situation but it's either you have dps numbers to supply you playing only one spec and benching you for those people (that's how it works) or you dont have people you need to fine tune the raid setup for specific boss so you are being extremely selfish to stop your guild progression for your fun/numbers. So in the first case your guild leader is being a lazy ass or you are being a selfish ass. Guess you already have the answer you are looking for. Good luck.
Every fight can be two healed (assuming 10M) so that's not a valid argument. The only person that we require to have a dps offspec is one of the tanks, for fights where only 1 is required. We gear our Guardian with a moonkin offspec since we have no-one to wear int leather.
It's not to much to ask to play the spec that you want to, you just can't get butthurt when you don't get a spot on the roster because someone out there is better at it/fills the roll better than you do.
sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do. If you hate it, find a new guild?
Hi
So rogues, mages, hunters, and hunters get benched often?
So main tanks get benched often?
I shouldn't be PUNISHED because I am more capable of doing a 2nd spec than the other healers. You are saying that because I am capable of doing both specs but don't like doing them, I am selfish. Why isn't the monk who pulls less DPS than the 'main spec' dps or the healer who can't manage his cooldowns correctly being talked about at all?
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No one does my role better than me.
The problem is I do two roles better than others.