Why do people despise mainstream popstars so much?

[Deleted]

I was just eating my breakfast this morning, having a browse of facebook and the usual 'Justin bieber is fag' meme's/post just pop up on my news feed as well as giving me a bit of the usual smrik, it sort of made me wonder, why do we have so much hatrid towards these mainstream popstars?

For the purpose of keeping this discussion focused, let's just focus on one person, Justin Bieber.

I mean, from my personal perspective, Yes I have joined the Justin hate wagon many a time, cracked several jokes in the local tavern about him being 'gay' or a 'fag', but sort of on reflection I don't have anything against him personally and in reality I'm fine with homosexual people, I mean its their choice after all and also he does himself have a fairly decent looking girlfriend.

Is the hatrid most people have against him just a way to gain social acceptance from peers? Or are there deeper reasons why we despise these popstars so much?

I'd like to know what your feelings are towards mainstream popstars, and if you despise them with a passion, why so?

[obdigore]

Could it be kick back from all the squeeing 13 year olds who annoy the everliving heck out of us?

Or perhaps Beiber saying he is the Kurt Cobane of his generation?

Or maybe the fact that pop stars themselves are a symptom of an abscess on our society that needs to be lanced?

[Skizo]

Or perhaps Beiber saying he is the Kurt Cobane of his generation?

To Bieber I say, prove it! I'll even give him the shotgun to use

[fizzbob]

they're entertainers and they're not entertaining. they're popular, but not because of their entertainment value, but because the media makes them popular and anything the media deems popular gets more popular

[Durandro]

Because they are a mockery of the system. Unknowns with little talent being pushed to the top artificially so they can be farmed for money.

It makes being a talented musician seem almost pointless. Very few musicians ever make it, and that's after years or decades of no success at all. Then some kid who you've never heard of arrives, sings someone else's song (which is often autotuned since they can't sing properly) and their debut album instantly goes platinium because idiots buy into the hype and advertising.

Its nothing against the kid himself (don't know him, don't want to), but more the thing he prepresents - corporations ploughing the crap out of art just for the money.

[Deleted]

Could it be kick back from all the squeeing 13 year olds who annoy the everliving heck out of us?

Were you not a squeeing 13 year old once?

Or perhaps Beiber saying he is the Kurt Cobane of his generation?

I can see how this statement demeans a possible Idol of yours which I can understand would build up a bit of hatrid towards him?

But are those 2 reasons alone enough from your personal perspective enough to make you 'lance' him?

I'm believe there are deeper reasons

[obdigore]

Were you not a squeeing 13 year old once?



I can see how this statement demeans a possible Idol of yours which I can understand would build up a bit of hatrid towards him?

But are those 2 reasons alone enough from your personal perspective enough to make you 'lance' him?

I'm believe there are deeper reasons

I don't 'lance' beiber. I think hes a joke. Just like the boybands of yesteryear. Autotuned piggy banks for the recording industry while actual talent gets ignored.

[Deleted]

Part of the reason is because there is a large amount of music out there that is arguably better. People have difference preferences, etc.

However, the undue hatred you're describing could be something else. I heard it was 'cool' to not like mainstream artists or mainstream anything, in fact.

No to say I like any of the mainstream artists, I personally believe it's feeding a dragon vegetables. Us, the slaves of society being the dragon, insufficiently fed trash that sees us on but never spurs development. Feed the people crap like X-factor and you've instantly taken away one hour of their lives they could've spent reading a valid newspaper or book.

[Durandro]

Were you not a squeeing 13 year old once?

Personally, no. I was a very quiet child with little interest in music until I was about 15-16.

There have always been that annoying group of 'over enthusiastic pre-teen/teen girls' since the late 50's. The problem is, they are being pandered to and profitted off of. Its encouraging braindead behaviour, which is abysmal for society.

[Todgruppe]

I was just eating my breakfast this morning, having a browse of facebook and the usual 'Justin bieber is fag' meme's/post just pop up on my news feed as well as giving me a bit of the usual smrik, it sort of made me wonder, why do we have so much hatrid towards these mainstream popstars?

For the purpose of keeping this discussion focused, let's just focus on one person, Justin Bieber.

I mean, from my personal perspective, Yes I have joined the Justin hate wagon many a time, cracked several jokes in the local tavern about him being 'gay' or a 'fag', but sort of on reflection I don't have anything against him personally and in reality I'm fine with homosexual people, I mean its their choice after all and also he does himself have a fairly decent looking girlfriend.

Is the hatrid most people have against him just a way to gain social acceptance from peers? Or are there deeper reasons why we despise these popstars so much?

I'd like to know what your feelings are towards mainstream popstars, and if you despise them with a passion, why so?

Have a theory on popstar's/popularity.


A direct result of women, now I know it might sound sexist but, they go little teenies go fucking crazy for Beiber in particular. Also, when you listen to the "AP Top 40", or any of that other nonsense nowadays, usually are a direct result of women intervention especially on the "pop stations". Don't know many dudes who either a) call them up at all b) vote for Beiber et al c) women are more vocal in promoting their agenda/likes/dislikes then men. I know it's breast cancer awareness month yadayada, but look at that movement, even outside of October it gets lots of headlines and usually only depicted towards women (men get it too, never hear about that, or what about prostate cancer? You hear about HPV/getting tested much more than anything to do with prostate cancer).

Also, in the case of Beiber that topics he sings about, the fuck does a 12 year white kid from the suburbs know about shit? Just saying, I don't want to hear a child sing about "love/feelings/etc" when they know little bit more then dogshit.

[Thelxi]

It is pretty obvious that jealousy is the biggest factor in the anonymous hatred. Beautiful famous people that make millions and millions doing seemingly nothing other than being popular is something that can easily frustrate people, especially the ones that are not entertained by them.

[Oerba Yun Fang]

I'm fine with homosexual people, I mean its their choice after all

I have to say this: not a choice.


As for the topic: When I express my ... shall we say, dislike, for Justin Bieber, or really any singer in general, it's not so much about the person as it is their music. I don't know him and so I can't say I hate him. I do, however, know I can't stand any of his music. I'd say this is the case for a lot of people who "hate" mainstream popstars. Failing that, I would say it's just the "my friends all hate him so I have to too" mentality taking over.

[Itisamuh]

I don't like men that act feminine. There's really nothing more to it than that. Guys are guys, girls are girls, and as far as I'm concerned, those lines shouldn't ever be blurred in any way. Also, it's made worse by the fact that I don't understand, at all, why they're successful. That kind of music is absolute garbage. I suppose in some ways that means I've got more against their fans than them. Having said all that, I don't typically join hate band wagons. It's pointless.

[inboundpaper]

Because people would rather be fed bullshit from some 20 something makeup wearing popstar.

[Ovacor]

I can not speak for everyone but I myself dislike most mainstream music because of its simplicity and lack of actual talent. I am someone who writes, records and performs their own music, I truly enjoy and over the years I have become somewhat respected in the East Bay Music scene as a result. I love it and would have it no other way; however, these "musicians" who do not write and a lot of time are unable to perform what they have recorded is nothing short of garbage. I equate it to someone downloading a college essay, turning it in and receiving and accepting praise from his/her professor and school as if he/she actually accomplished something. In realty the student did absolutely nothing more than click a few buttons, falsely associate his/her name with the material. That is literally the only issue I have with pop stars, at least from a musical perspective. I am all for music being a completely subjective experience, but not writing/performing your own material is garbage in my book.

As for actors and that kind of shit, I could careless. That is not my point of interest though...

[Zazeeth]

For me, (and quite possibly the majority of people) the only way we ever learn anything about pop stars is via mainstream media/internet/stuff you hear from people. So the image that gets painted is based solely from that. If the pop star in question shows up and says something that just rubs you the wrong way, then it helps fuel the fire. There's also the herd mentality there, when you hear multiple people trashing on someone popular, it becomes hard not to join in not knowing much about the person in question.

However, I don't question my irritation/hatred of pop stars who gain their fame via something really stupid (i.e. Reality TV), and then go out of their way behaving like they're now better than everyone else just because they receive their 15 minutes in the limelight (or multiple seasons). If I see a pop star on TV or somewhere on the web, and they start behaving like a braying jackass, they go right on the hate list.

[rt7]

i don't understand who actually buys their stuff

like it seems 99% of people just rip music off the net anyway.

[Jakexe]

Because it's manufactured shit. More effort goes into marketing the star than the music. They have no real talent, lip sync to auto-tune and are generally a painful experience to endure.

Let's compare two songs, firstly we have the lyrical genius of "Baby". Which involved 7 writers ( Justin Bieber, Christopher "Tricky" Stewart, Terius "The-Dream" Nash, Christopher Bridges, Christina Milian) and 2 producers. With that sort of talent behind it we have this:

And I was like
Baby, baby, baby ooh
Like
Baby, baby, baby noo
Like
Baby, baby, baby ohh
I thought you'd always be mine (mine)
Baby, baby, baby ohh
Like
Baby, baby, baby noo
Like
Baby, baby, baby ohh
I thought you'd always be mine (mine)

Now let's compare it to another song:

Mama, just killed a man
Put a gun against his head
Pulled my trigger, now he's dead
Mama, life had just begun
But now I've gone and thrown it all away
Mama, ooo
Didn't mean to make you cry
If I'm not back again this time tomorrow
Carry on, carry on, as if nothing really matters

Too late, my time has come
Sends shivers down my spine
Body's aching all the time
Goodbye everybody - I've got to go
Gotta leave you all behind and face the truth
Mama, ooo - (any way the wind blows)
I don't want to die
I sometimes wish I'd never been born at all

Writer: just Freddy Mercury and 2 producers one being the fucking band that plays it.

Jeez, I wonder why people would think it's all hollow manufactured BS.

[Deleted]

Jealousy

[Razorice]

I don't hate popstars. I dislike them and their music simply because their so called "music" is shallow.