Seems to be a common issue. First we were on Spirit Kings HC, we wiped for 60-90 minutes. Had the last boss down to 40% after like 8-10 pulls. Yet people were all like "omg lets skip this". Really, I am used to spending weeks progressing, wiping to a boss for hours and hours. People nowadays seems to expect a boss to die after 30 mintues or its unkillable. "We lack the gear", no you don't lack the gear, your just terrible.