Gara'kal > Shek'zeer?

[Dehlight]

So what I is wondering is a Hc Gara'kal, Fist of the Spiritbinder better then a NM Claws of Shek'zeer with a 500 Agility gem?

[gynshon]

Nowhere near better. It is 554 Agility for the H Garajal wpn, compared to 524 agility on the normal Empress wpn natively. Throw in a 500 agility socket. Now spend 1500 valor upgrading it. Yes there is Mastery/Haste native on the Garajal, but stats can be reforged into haste. The main question is whether you feel 470 agility is a good upgrade for a single piece of gear. The answer is pretty clear.

[Herschel]

Since we're DWing, to me, the question isn't so much which weapon is better, it's which pair of weapons is better.

You should only replace the N Claw with a H Claw, because that gem is always going to push it ahead, unless you have two N Claws, in which case you replace the mainhand claw with a H Gara'kal. Then you leave the gemmed N Claw in your offhand. (You put the H Gara'kal in the MH because it has higher weapon DPS than the N Claw.)

BIS will definitely be two heroic Claws, but since most people will kill H Gara'jal before H Empress, I would imagine, H Gara'kal is a good intermediary weapon since you can't have two gems equipped at once.

[Dehlight]

Yeah atm I am using two Hc Gara'kal. That was what I wanted to know if it's better to have a Claw of Shek'zeer in the offhand

[Shazzia]

nvm :d
filler

[Dreyo]

BIS Ranking

MH / OH

H Claw / H Claw
H Claw / H Gara
H Gara / N Claw
N Claw / N Claw
N Claw / N Gara
N Gara / LFR Claw
LFR Claw / LFR Claw
LFR Claw / LFR Gara
LFR Gara / LFR Gara

Not clear where to put in H Gara / H Gara relative to H Gara / N Claw, and N Gara / N Gara relative to N Gara / LFR Claw, as I haven't done the math on the weapon DPS vs the legendary gem, but the rest should be clear enough.

[Dahmonk]

H Gara/ H Gara is inbetween H Gara/ N Claw and N Claw/ N Claw.. The only reason that Claw OH pulls ahead is that the agi gem makes up for the loss in OHWDPS to H Gara OH

[Deleted]

For offhand, N Claw + gem > H Gara > N Claw. For mainhand you should always take the highest weapon damage, even if there's strength on it.