Last edited by Fahrenheit; 2012-12-10 at 03:33 PM.
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Umm... Because anything that makes someone different opens them up for ridicule. Why give some little shit a reason to pick on your kid. And to say youd make fun of them back, youve never been in a locker room have you? Anything that makes you different from the majority will get you made fun of. You by not having it done in the US are giving kids a reason to pick on your kid. It happens in locker rooms. Its the way it is. When a bunch of kids gang up on the few there isnt much you can do. Do you not remember being picked on for something? Do you want to subject your kid to that? You cant live in a bubble trying to make yourself out as specia ok and put your kid at risk can you?
Except people imposing stuff on other people because they think it's best is generally considered a bad thing. It shouldn't change because it's parents.
Let's irreversibly modify our children because you were a stupid bullying moron. You know how we could avoid that ? Cutting parts out of bullies. Funnier.Umm... Because anything that makes someone different opens them up for ridicule. Why give some little shit a reason to pick on your kid. And to say youd make fun of them back, youve never been in a locker room have you? Anything that makes you different from the majority will get you made fun of. You by not having it done in the US are giving kids a reason to pick on your kid. It happens in locker rooms. Its the way it is. When a bunch of kids gang up on the few there isnt much you can do. Do you not remember being picked on for something? Do you want to subject your kid to that? You cant live in a bubble trying to make yourself out as specia ok and put your kid at risk can you?
Last edited by Authary; 2012-12-10 at 03:39 PM.
Couldn't be more wrong.Cutting off foreskin does not affect sexual performance or pleasure.
2/2 both facts wrong, gg.
So - like not vaccinating the child? Or hitting the child? I guess it should be left up to the parents to do what they think is best. Unless of course if it is a female child - then circumcision is bad BAD BAD! Circumcision is just a euphemism for genital mutilation.
We do not let the parents decide what is best for the child if what they think is best if it is hurtful to the child or those around it. Why should this be any different.
But it does in this case. You're being disingenuous if you're saying you don't see that.
From time to time parents do things and ask things of infants/children that they may not want to do, but the parents are doing it becuase they think it's in the best intrested of their child. As such, they have the leagal rights.
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As Cattaclysmic mentioned, parents do all sort of illegal/dangerous/bad things to their children because they think it's in the best interest of their child. They're usually forbidden because you do not do any irreversible thing to a baby without a good reason (an opinion isn't a good reason). That one should be forbidden too.
You should be asking yourself the same question I would think. If it were such a tragedy and ruined the child's life, why would the practise be in such great use as it is? Why would 1st world coutries the world over say, yeah it's has some benefits but nothing that would make it mandatory... so let's just leave it up to the parents to make their best educated decision.
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If you have a son, his generation isn't going to be 95% cut. It depends somewhat on region of the country whether it'll be 50% cut or 10% cut, but I guarantee he wouldn't be mocked for being the only one with an anteater. Of course it's always possible there'll be some guy making fun of his dick (who does this, really?), but are you honestly telling me that if he comes to you when he's 17 and says he wishes he hadn't been circumcised, you think "well, son, when I was your age, I got my jollies by making fun of an uncircumcised johnson, and I just wanted to spare you that" is going to be a satisfactory answer?
I mean seriously you cannot compare this to female circumcision. Putting them in the same light because you use the same word is just plain ignorant. No 1st world country ever preformed it. I dont get the idea that its the same word means the same thing crap. You self rightous little shits you cant be living in the US. Its not normal in the US to not have your child cut. You make your child into a social stigma by not doing it. Why just so you can give him the choice and feel good about yourself? Therrs more to it than that and you know it. Yes if only religous people did it noone would get picked on but its a societal norm in the US regardless of religion. Go ahead have your kid be made fun of im not making my kid stand out for my own selfish reasons.
I don't think religion is making national (not just in the US) backed scientific health departments say, "It has it's benefits, but not enought to warrant it for every male child. So we leave it up to the parents."
Again if it were so horrible a practise why wouldn't countries the world over ban it instead of saying it's kinda good but not enought for us to force it on you, so do what you want.
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Because it has no systematic drawback. Some may like it, some may have problems. The health department's job is to point out the scientific facts.
The problem is not measurable. It's about freedom of choice. If you force it on a baby because of your reasons the kid will have to live with it. He cannot grow another foreskin if he happens to develop his own opinion (woah !) and decides to think it's a bad thing. However, if he's not cut, he can totally cut it.
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Yes i do think that will be a good answer. Any way you can protect your child from bullying is your resposibility as aparent. There is no worse abuse than mental abuse. I would never do anything to put my child in harms way as most parents wouldnt. Being self rightepus and a human rights advocate wont make you look any better when your kid asks you why am o different.
I have no facts on this subject but my educated guess is that it's falling out of favor more based on people wishing to seperate themselves from the religious dogma, and not because of the benefits.
http://latitude.blogs.nytimes.com/20...-circumcision/
And by that article, only 45% of the German population agreed with the decision, & Chancellor Merkel was quoted as saying “I do not want Germany to be the only country in the world in which Jews cannot practice their rites,” so I have my doubts on the staying power of such a ruling.
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