my point is why gate gear behind rep at all?
the only case where I was ok with this, was the firelands rep items (cloaks, rings, trinkets)
cause at least you worked towards items in a relevant manner.
This right here. People worry too much about how slow it is to unlock the rep gear but fail to see that it takes longer to earn the valor points to purchase the gear to begin with. Pretty pointless to burn out doing dailies to get 4+ reps to revered in order to buy gear when it will take you 2 months of capping out VP to purchase all of that gear to begin with.
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Four of my 90's can do LFR without 1 single piece of rep gear. It's really not that hard to get the ilvl to get into the 1st tier of LFR.
Because Blizzard had a point before MoP launched, but backed off at the last minute then did a really bad job of communicating it's intentions.
Valor gear is not meant for raiders. In fact, there was not supposed to BE any valor gear in MoP. At all. None. The VP gear was added to the rep vendors very late in beta, effectively last minute. Before that we were told that valor was going to be used for the upgrade system that ultimately came in 5.1. They changed their minds for 2 reasons. The upgrade system wasn't quite ready for launch and the devs thought that having no valor gear at all would be too much of a shock to players on top of the already extensive game changes that come with a new expansion. That is why VP gear is a lower iLvl than raid drops in normal HoF and TotES, and not significantly higher than drops from LFR. Basically they want you killing bosses as your primary source for gear, not visiting the Magical Armor Dispenser. Valor gear is mostly targeted at players who either do not raid at all or at most do LFR runs only, with the logic that if you are only doing LFR you have time to do the dailies to unlock the gear, especially since you will unlock gear far faster than you can earn valor even if doing them casually. Yes, Blizzard changed the system for the one where valor was used to supplement bad luck with raid drops. No, they did not make sure players were well enough aware of this change after 2.5 expansions under the old system.
Blizzard already recognizes that MoP is very alt unfriendly. They are looking at ways to address that. I would not expect changes taking us anywhere close to how we saw things in Cata, where it was completely possible to have 10 fully raid-geared characters that are actively played at the same time. I would also not be at all surprised if they don't put any more valor gear into the game, and rely on the upgrade system only. I see this as especially true given their comments about not having such a drastic "catch-up" mechanic as we saw in both WotLK and Cata, where prior tiers are completely obsoleted by new 5-mans that drop equivalent gear, instead using LFR as a means of prepping new characters for current tier raiding.
What I would like to see in 5.2:
Remove rep requirement on T14 valor gear and make it cost JP instead
Increased rate of JP gain
New level 90 characters would gear up for current content using T14 LFR, vendor gear, and the upgrade system. Yay for non-painful progression raiding!
Any new 5.2 5-man heroics drop gear equivalent to T14 LFR Hof/TotES (iLvl 483)
Last edited by Gurbz; 2012-12-17 at 03:40 PM.
I found I enjoyed the game significantly more when I stopped paying attention to all the people on the forums telling me how much I am supposed to hate itAll this complaining is simply further proof that Blizzard could send each and every player a real-life wish-granting flying unicorn carrying a solid gold plate of chocolate chip cookies wrapped in hundred dollar bills, and someone would whine that Blizzard sucks for not letting them choose oatmeal raisin.
"Only Jack can zip up."
The word you want to use is "have" not "of".
You may have alot of stuff in your country, but we got Lolland.
Well to me, charms are as mandatory to raiding as enchantments are. By not getting them, you are effectively taking gear away from your raid group and being a scumbag. I don't want to be a scumbag.
And its not effort that bothers me. Its that there's no alternative means of acquiring them, as I personally hate doing dailies. I'm not alone in that sentiment, either.
Well tbh with the new Commendations in place farming rep on alts is a breeze really...
Just raise a faction or two til honred, get their gear and you can probably enter LFR and get the rest. Besides when you do the dailies you also get Valor so it's win-win...
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With the Commendation it's piss easy getting to revered where you can get all the shiny epics (plus the ones you can already get at honored) this is whining imo.
remember that ur getting 35 jp 42 with guild perk per boss, and you'll need 1500jp per item, also i just found this gem so ill link it from the front page blue tracker
http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/2...-dungeons-now/
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remember you can only upgrade your jp gear at 2 pieces per cap and u get 35-42 jp per boss atm
also note that the shield wall rewards are even better tan MSV normal loot
Last edited by thunderdragon2; 2012-12-18 at 03:22 PM.
I can understand why they'd gate valor gear behind rep, I always felt like getting valor gear was too easy. You grind a few super easy 5man heroics, get valor and buy gear equivalent to raiding. Didn't seem fair to me.
I think Blizzard did it wrong tough. They should add a barrier to test players before they can use (or get) VP gear, but rep isn't one. They aren't challenging either, just time-consuming. For me it worked great, I'd have grinded the hell out of these reputations anyway (69 Exalteds atm!!), but I bet players who don't share my passion for questing must be feeling forced to do something they don't want and, worse even, something that isn't related to raiding gear at all.
I think Blizzard should have made heroics and dailies reward Justice Point, make Justice Point more useful then it is right now (more items being sold with it) and make Challenge mode reward Valor. Make it so you can get a decent amount of Valor even with Bronze, you wouldn't have to be a total badass to get it, but make it harder and less repetitive then dailies or 5man heroics.