House GOP has allowed VAWA to expire for all the wrong reasons.

[Laize]

So instead of focusing on the issues relating to abridgment of civil rights or unequal protections for male victims of violence, Congress has decided VAWA should be allowed to expire because it helps illegal immigrants..

Im no fan of illegals... but come on guys...

[breadisfunny]

so what exactly does this act cover?

[smelltheglove]

So instead of focusing on the issues relating to abridgment of civil rights or unequal protections for male victims of violence, Congress has decided VAWA should be allowed to expire because it helps illegal immigrants..

Im no fan of illegals... but come on guys...

a little light on info here laize, but you have my attention

[Laize]

so what exactly does this act cover?

The Violence Against Women Act.

[Reeve]

So apparently the GOP doesn't like it because it extends protections to same-sex couples and because it allows battered illegal immigrants temporary visas.

I'm pretty much OK with both of those things.

[Laize]

a little light on info here laize, but you have my attention

Apologies. Posting from my phone.

The facts are straightforward as they are stupid. The House GOP has refused to re authorize the VAWA in the grounds that illegals and other people republicans don't like (A group which apparently includes women) would be aided.

There were a few good reasons to nix the Act if for no other reason than taking it to a more egalitarian and less civil-rights-encroaching way... but their reasoning suggests they don't want to help ANY victims of violence.

[Dakia]

. . . . decided VAWA should be allowed to expire because it helps illegal immigrants.

Maybe I'm missing it, but where does it say that in the story?

[Tinykong]

The new Congress has taken a step in the right direction: allowing redudant, unnecessary legislation to expire. Maybe there is a small glimmer of hope.

[smelltheglove]

Apologies. Posting from my phone.

The facts are straightforward as they are stupid. The House GOP has refused to re authorize the VAWA in the grounds that illegals and other people republicans don't like (A group which apparently includes women) would be aided.

There were a few good reasons to nix the Act if for no other reason than taking it to a more egalitarian and less civil-rights-encroaching way... but their reasoning suggests they don't want to help ANY victims of violence.

all good, and ty

it honestly sounds like something that a nation that considers itself civilized should have in some form tbh. any chance they will create a replacement act/bill?

[Dakia]

all good, and ty

it honestly sounds like something that a nation that considers itself civilized should have in some form tbh. any chance they will create a replacement act/bill?

My opinion is that it is likely that something will be brought up, along with the Hurricane Sandy relief. The fiscal cliff talks have been all consuming towards the end of the session.

Additionally, I'm curious if this bill was brought up in the Senate at all. I'll admit I'm not looking deeply in to the issue at all other than reading the linked story.

My own personal opinion is that you don't call it a Rep or Dem congress unless said party controls both houses of congress.

[Screwtape]

Just admit it. You were going to blame Republicans no matter what.

[Laize]

Maybe I'm missing it, but where does it say that in the story?

Honestly I read about this earlier today but didn't get a chance to post. Now i am posting from my phone and apparently have an article that doesn't list reasons for the decision.

I'll find it.

[theredviola]

How people are still republicans I'll never understand. Its fine to be conservative, its fine to have conservative values (pro life, pro marriage) but with the B.S. that the GOP is causing lately.... I just don't get it.

[smelltheglove]

Just admit it. You were going to blame Republicans no matter what.

you know laize is anything but a liberal right?

[openair]

Can someone explain why a bill like this is necessary? Violence against anyone (gender is irrelevant) is illegal. Why do woman need a special bill? Is there is a VAMA?

[Dakia]

How people are still republicans I'll never understand. Its fine to be conservative, its fine to have conservative values (pro life, pro marriage) but with the B.S. that the GOP is causing lately.... I just don't get it.

Maybe because their ideals more closely align with a certain party over another?

I have yet to find a person who blindly follows and agrees with a singular party on every single issue.

Can someone explain why a bill like this is necessary? Violence against anyone (gender is irrelevant) is illegal. Why do woman need a special bill? Is there is a VAMA?

The US went on a kick for a while where we had to have bills that protected everyone who wasn't a white male.

you know laize is anything but a liberal right?

Realistically, it is a safe assumption to make on these boards if you don't know the given user specifically.

[Tinykong]

Can someone explain why a bill like this is necessary? Violence against anyone (gender is irrelevant) is illegal. Why do woman need a special bill? Is there is a VAMA?

This bill can be summed up easily: special interest group. At $100+ billion, it's definately not a cheap program, either.

[Ofmanv]

Feminist groups denounced the changes to the bill broadening the focus on more than just women.

Then when the bill doesn't pass after they were the ones pressuring politicians not go though with the bill reforms they whine and complain anyways.

There's no pleasing feminists.

[larrakeyah]

Can someone explain why a bill like this is necessary? Violence against anyone (gender is irrelevant) is illegal. Why do woman need a special bill? Is there is a VAMA?

Because it's trendy and hip, like global warming and renewable energy. In Australia the current fad is aboriginal BS.

[Laize]

Just admit it. You were going to blame Republicans no matter what.

I AM a Republican, sir. But. i have the integrity to know when my party is being a bunch of petulant little twats.


Here is a link that should lay it all out.

http://tv.msnbc.com/2012/12/21/why-d...emain-stalled/