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    Quote Originally Posted by Drunkenvalley View Post
    I hope this sees the light of day.
    Screw that. It's long overdue. Bring on the 2x780, because games need that kinda power!

    Honestly though, if 4k resolutions are going to start getting pushed, 2x780s would probably be needed to push 4k BF3 and the like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeltrusDisc View Post
    Screw that. It's long overdue. Bring on the 2x780, because games need that kinda power!

    Honestly though, if 4k resolutions are going to start getting pushed, 2x780s would probably be needed to push 4k BF3 and the like.
    With more and more people pushing for higher resolutions I just hope Nvidia goes back to wider memory buses again.
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    I was going to say the pixel count isn't that high and that thus we wouldn't be that far behind, but then I did a doubletake when I saw that my 1440p isn't even 4 million pixels, while apparently the 4k resolutions start above 8 million.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeltrusDisc View Post
    Hey guy, guess what?

    http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread...-ASUS-MARS-III

    Go on back to the whiteboard and try to understand an entire company via a few products, maybe you'll get it next time.
    :O

    That thing is actually incrediably compact for the power it yields. I doubt it will ever make it to stores though, that would just be outdated by the time it gets released.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeltrusDisc View Post
    Screw that. It's long overdue. Bring on the 2x780, because games need that kinda power!

    Honestly though, if 4k resolutions are going to start getting pushed, 2x780s would probably be needed to push 4k BF3 and the like.
    Meh i'm not sure. We'll probebly be at the 8xx or 9xx line before we get 4k monitors for decent prices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeltrusDisc View Post
    Hey guy, guess what?

    http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread...-ASUS-MARS-III

    Go on back to the whiteboard and try to understand an entire company via a few products, maybe you'll get it next time.
    First time ive seen that one, dont think its released yet tho? My point still stands for their matrix line than. I havent seen a 680 matrix. Could be that has more to do with the voltage regulations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeara View Post
    First time ive seen that one, dont think its released yet tho? My point still stands for their matrix line than. I havent seen a 680 matrix. Could be that has more to do with the voltage regulations.
    I have a reply for this, too. Their 7970 Matrix Platinum wasn't even good, compared to others.



    Watch the whole video and you'll understand, he goes seriously in-depth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by n0cturnal View Post
    With more and more people pushing for higher resolutions I just hope Nvidia goes back to wider memory buses again.
    Pretty sure they were never happy with the lowered buses for 600s. Twas not originally intended. The 780, from what we can tell from leaked specs, if it has a GK110 chip, would be back to 384 bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Holo View Post
    Meh i'm not sure. We'll probebly be at the 8xx or 9xx line before we get 4k monitors for decent prices.
    Perhaps not, but people who are in the market for the x80/x90 level GPUs are usually also capable of getting the more expensive monitors, like a 4k. Still, the 780, if we are to understand it like we have been, could power 2560x1440, 5760x1080, etc etc, very damned well.
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    Perhaps Asus will be able to solve what both AMD and Powercolor could not

    AMD was working on the 7990, and never could get it to work, so they handed the whole thing over to Powercolor

    Powercolor's 7990 is honestly a piece of junk, most people who have them are not happy with them, they are temperamental at best and require custom drivers that often crash

    as it stands, there does need to be a competitor to the 690, Nvidia has artificially limited the 600 series across the board because they really don't have competition from AMD

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    No, AMD just didn't want to waste the resources. They could do it. But at what expense? Power hungry, thermally inefficient and pricey.
    The dual GPU cards are prestige only, if it would ounce the GTX 690 in performance, but require a nuclear reactor to run and be difficult to cool, not to mention that they produce dual GPU cards at a loss (RnD to manufacturing is much much larger with these cards compared to the small scale of release), they just saw no point spending the money on that when they are in the financial situation they are, for questionable PR gains.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by tetrisGOAT View Post
    No, AMD just didn't want to waste the resources. They could do it. But at what expense? Power hungry, thermally inefficient and pricey.
    The dual GPU cards are prestige only, if it would ounce the GTX 690 in performance, but require a nuclear reactor to run and be difficult to cool, not to mention that they produce dual GPU cards at a loss (RnD to manufacturing is much much larger with these cards compared to the small scale of release), they just saw no point spending the money on that when they are in the financial situation they are, for questionable PR gains.
    if they had an idea to make a card have 2 gpus, reach a certain level of performance, use a certain amount of power, and do it by a deadline (this is a business they are running) they never could, the project was scrapped, thats not the same as not wasting resources

    dual gpu cards make the R&D money back in the server area, companies dump them into servers for a compute card, and they buy tons of them, every time EVGA was sold out of 690's it was because a company called up and ordered 30 of them for a datacenter, this has even lead to the older 590 appreciating in value, most used 590s i see for sale are being sold used for more than i paid for mine new, a 590 or 690, even at a market price of $1k, is still cheaper and more powerful, and more usable than a Tesla, and takes up the same amount of slot space in a box

    if AMD could get wider OpenCL adoption for professional environments, they would not have to worry about recouping R&D costs on a dual gpu card

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeltrusDisc View Post
    Perhaps not, but people who are in the market for the x80/x90 level GPUs are usually also capable of getting the more expensive monitors, like a 4k. Still, the 780, if we are to understand it like we have been, could power 2560x1440, 5760x1080, etc etc, very damned well.
    A more expensive, sure. But 1000 euros for a single monitor? Comon

    And then i'm being gentle lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Holo View Post
    A more expensive, sure. But 1000 euros for a single monitor? Comon

    And then i'm being gentle lol.
    1000 Euros would be cheap. There's 30 inch Dell 2560x1600 monitors that still go for $1k+.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeltrusDisc View Post
    1000 Euros would be cheap. There's 30 inch Dell 2560x1600 monitors that still go for $1k+.
    Who the hell is going to pay 1k+++ for a single monitor? :/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Holo View Post
    Who the hell is going to pay 1k+++ for a single monitor? :/
    i did, plenty of people have and do, and the last time i checked, the cheap 4k monitors are in the $5-10k range

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyanotical View Post
    i did, plenty of people have and do, and the last time i checked, the cheap 4k monitors are in the $5-10k range
    I think you are a very small minority. Even among the people that are in the market for the x80 and x90 series Nvidia GPU's

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    Quote Originally Posted by Holo View Post
    I think you are a very small minority. Even among the people that are in the market for the x80 and x90 series Nvidia GPU's
    Right now, 4k resolution is for a special enthusiast crowd, same with the 690, and even the 680. Most realize that very little separates the 670 and 680, like you, and choose to go for the 670, but then you have the folks that go for the 680, or in Cyanotical's case... 2 690s. lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Holo View Post
    I think you are a very small minority. Even among the people that are in the market for the x80 and x90 series Nvidia GPU's
    i think you'll find that the 27" and 30" IPS monitors have more than a just few owners, there are plenty of people who want quality and are willing to pay for it

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    I am enthusiastic. But not THAT enthusiastic :< Bisides that my simple minimum wage job doesn't pay for stuff like that even if i still live with my parents :/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Holo View Post
    I am enthusiastic. But not THAT enthusiastic :< Bisides that my simple minimum wage job doesn't pay for stuff like that even if i still live with my parents :/
    save $250 a month for 5 months, in 5 months you can get a monitor that will last up to a decade

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyanotical View Post
    i did, plenty of people have and do, and the last time i checked, the cheap 4k monitors are in the $5-10k range
    People need to understand the concept of gaming, enthusiast, and professional a bit better. Gaming is of a nature where you want maximum performance w/o becoming insanely expensive otherwise who is playing the games? Enthusiasts, well this is basically bench and burn no care of concern toward bugs and inefficiency just raw power. When it comes to professional grade items it becomes a different beast completely now you are talking about people's careers lives etc. Lets say a Pixar 3D artist is trying to make a new movie in a timely fashion before the technology is completely outdated, he or she would need something with an assload of raw power, but being an artist it must be of refined qualities on every input and output as well. Seeing a full range of colors can be an entire new idea or thought in an artists mind, and being able to put it on the screen according to your idea is ideal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Holo View Post
    I am enthusiastic. But not THAT enthusiastic :< Bisides that my simple minimum wage job doesn't pay for stuff like that even if i still live with my parents :/
    If you are working at least 30 hours a week, yes it can. Trust me on that.

    If I could fund a $5-6k drumset with a 30~ hour work week Walgreens job, then you can fund a $1k monitor. :P
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