What would you say about the 2/2 Relic and 2/2 Heroic TiTM? Replace the relic with the shado pan one?
What would you say about the 2/2 Relic and 2/2 Heroic TiTM? Replace the relic with the shado pan one?
Don't know whether to be happy or sad that I will be running a whole tier till heroic with a valor and darkmoon trinket. I am gonnago with happy since it takes some RNG out.
The only benefit to us using HC Bottle + Valor trinket is we can pass them onto other raiders who need them. For example, our raids have a Rogue, Monk and Balance Druid who has a decent tanking OS.
Yeah it's a shame that they couldn't be bothered to make the item budget higher for us so we weren't using last tiers items throughout Heroic, but you can't win them all!
Spec won't really matter for those trinket options. The only time spec will truly come into play is when you're dealing with the new RPPM trinkets.
I'd personally replace Xuen, because it has a nasty habit of deciding not to proc for a long time. It devastates your opener if it decides not to. Theoretically though, Xuen is better.
Had the worst experience with relic yesterday. Was busy on the dummy adjusting some TMW /NTK settings , and it didnt proc until 52 seconds into the test.
(BM) It might be statistically improbable, but man ..that convinced me to replace it ASAP.
Its just to darn unreliable
Am I missing something or is that little update from GC on the homepage:
- Rune of Re-Origination – 0.92 RealPPM on landing harmful abilities and spells, and melee/ranged abilities and swings. 22 sec ICD
- Proc rate multiplied by 0.1 for non-melee specs. Proc rate multiplied by 0.25 against player controlled units. Proc rate multiplied by 1/(1.15^((528-ItemLevel)/15) for the various Item Level versions of the trinket.
Telling us that our RealPPM will be 0.092PPM for the Rune?
Can't believe how bad the new trinkets are actually looking for us at the minute. The worst part is, if Blizz decide to 'fix' them they'll probably do so by nerfing the T14 HC trinkets...
So they changed how RealPPM works? What trinkets will even be good now?
Have i read this right, is the one from shado pan one of our BiS in 5.2?:O
Im really confused right now, can one maybe give a list of trinkets from worst to best? I am currently having 510 ilvl Bottle and 476 Darkmoon Trinket.
Thanks for the input on these. So from what I've read so far, since I have H Bottle + H Terror fully upgraded, I should just wait till I get the heroic t15 trinkets right?
No. Don't bother with normal raid trinkets, but the rep trinket is BiS. H 2/2 Bottle and H 2/2 Terror are very close to each other so keep them both, but at current gear levels its rep>bottle>terror. At BiS gear I saw Terror>Bottle, with both of them still a little better than the heroic raid trinkets. This may change as our models get updated.
@Tehstool - I'm interested in it because I'm going in to 5.2 with LFR Terror and Xuen as my best options. I know Monks will be after the Rune because they'll be gaming it around TEB and wonder if we can achieve something like that with Bestial Wrath.
The rigidity of the trinket is huge. The RealPPM system makes it unreliable and we wouldn't be able to time it with bestial wrath most of the time. It's just not for hunters as I see it. I would like to test it before fully dismissing it though, but losing all those stats isn't good because our stats are pretty close to each other as it is and they compliment each other so losing 10% mastery would make you do 10% less damage, but you'd crit more often which could make up for that. It's just not reliable. For monks it's a huge gain, so even if this trinket was ok for us I'd still pass it on to them.
Last edited by Tehstool; 2013-03-05 at 03:17 PM.
Thx for advices about trinket. BTW can some1 explain in couple words what they changed in this RPPM, so trinkets are now not best upgrade gear for us like before?