mage 5.2 BIS lists, are there any out there?
mage 5.2 BIS lists, are there any out there?
Still wondering why I play this game.
I'm a Rogue and I also made a spreadsheet for the Order Hall that is updated for BfA.
Very too early to make BiS list : there's change one or twice a week, especially for Arcane.
Some gear also change a lot.
Wait till a week after 5.2, it will be here for heroic.
Plus we dont know yet if all the datamined loot actually drops anywhere, plus then there are the "thunderforged" items that skew up BiS lists
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I mean, you can actually answer that... Kinda.
Due to the heavy nerfs, at this EXACT moment, it goes: Frost > Fire > Arcane, unless your gear is really high (like 500+); then it'd go Fire > Frost > Arcane.
By the end of the patch (again, at this EXACT moment if no more changes were made), it will be Fire > Arcane > Frost, because of Frost's caps and horrible scaling.
And then Fire will be nerfed for scaling too well, which will go right back to Arcane > Frost > Fire. We're doomed to roller-coaster.
Still wondering why I play this game.
I'm a Rogue and I also made a spreadsheet for the Order Hall that is updated for BfA.
I was under the impression that come 5.2 Fire was going to be better; that might be because my iLvl's quite high already but with the new normal mode gear Fire's certainly going to scale well.
I can only hope it ends up something *similar* to 4.3; where Fire was strongest in some situations, Arcane the other, so it felt as if you had more choice for progression-based raiding, compared to now where it feels forced. Don't get me wrong, I love Arcane but I'd still prefer more options all the time.
Fire's definitely going to be better. Arcane atm is so broken (bad) it's not even funny. Frost is a strong specc, but because of both Haste and Crit soft-capping as it is, it'll be terrible by the end of 5.2.
Fire's going to be JUST as strong as Live (slightly stronger because we can have both Scorch and PoM). It just depends on your gear, which is obviously going up once 5.2 lands, but if your gear stays the same, Fire is literally JUST as strong.
Still wondering why I play this game.
I'm a Rogue and I also made a spreadsheet for the Order Hall that is updated for BfA.
Yeah, but nore ore cares which spec is the best at this exact moment. Whats interesting is which one is gonna be the best when 5.2 hits live.
So there could be any numbers of changes from today to release that could change the result.
In the end, we can't know for sure .
While true, one thing's a given: If Fire's scaling doesn't get another knee-jerk reaction and neither Arcane nor Frost get a 100% damage buff, it will be, without a doubt Fire > Arcane > Frost by the end of 5.2/5.3. Once we get geared, that's the only flow it can follow because Fire scales beautifully, and Frost scales like shit, plus both Crit and Haste soft caps will be met.
Oh right I forgot about that >.> Been so used to Rune of Shit
Still wondering why I play this game.
I'm a Rogue and I also made a spreadsheet for the Order Hall that is updated for BfA.
Still wondering why I play this game.
I'm a Rogue and I also made a spreadsheet for the Order Hall that is updated for BfA.
Well, pretty much this : http://eu.battle.net/wow/fr/characte...has/Daa/simple
I have 4/5 crit part I kept "just in case" but lower ilvl, i'll check when 5.2 hits if those a better than the gear I have on atm, but I think my gear is mosted suited to Frost.
But I hate frost in pve . Except heroics.
Still wondering why I play this game.
I'm a Rogue and I also made a spreadsheet for the Order Hall that is updated for BfA.
I am 502 ilevel and I still perform a lot better as frost. However I am only able to reach about 32% crit raid buffed (flask, food, etc.). Idk maybe I just have bad luck but every time I go fire I get close to last place on dps on single target fights. As frost I'm usually top dps. Could be that I'm just better at frost. :?
Well I just swapped to Fire from Arcane, as I told my guild tonight was my last night as Arc.
33.91% Crit (before CM/Crit Suppression), and that's with MA, DB, and a 500 Int flask (Crystal of Insanity).
Should be around 35% with Kings, 1000 Int Flask, and food buff.
Also keep in mind, Fire is very RNG.
Still wondering why I play this game.
I'm a Rogue and I also made a spreadsheet for the Order Hall that is updated for BfA.
SimC has posted mage T15 profiles a few hours ago (not yet part of download).
As far as I can see no PTR spell changes have been implemented yet (e.g. Arc nerfs or Frostbolt buff), but the lists are a good starting point.
https://code.google.com/p/simulation...cane_T15H.simc
https://code.google.com/p/simulation...Fire_T15H.simc
https://code.google.com/p/simulation...rost_T15H.simc
I still have a really really hard time thinking we want only 7.8k crit rating for fire in 5.2 when there is over 15k to be had.. also gemming int.. not sure abt that. Oh well have to see I guess.
Edit: oh nvm its the same gear for each spec, so its just not optimized or anything.
Last edited by mrgreenthump; 2013-02-25 at 07:56 PM.