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  1. #341
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    its a bit confusing, but I asume you have BBoY (flex), Toxic Totem (LFR) and PBoI (Flex)? ... than go Black Blood/Bindings ... only change them for there nhc versions. general rule is

    Bindings>Black Blood>Totem. iLvl+>iLvl-... with the Exeption of the bindings, even their LFR version is supreme (not the buff, but the passiv)

  2. #342
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    I play warlock as alt and I often play alt raids on Saturdays. Usually there is one other wlock and we are quite equally skilled while he does have few ilvl more than me. I was checking our galakras hc logs and noticed something where our gameplay is completely different.
    http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/r...?s=3661&e=4274

    He (chaos) uses embers on chaos bolt while I (syopalainen) use them mainly on shadowburn on fight like that. In that particular fight we both had immerseus trinkets while i had cleave trinket and he had garrosh trinket. The thing I'm mostly interested is: which one of us is doing it right? Neither of us play wlock as main and as you can see from damage we aren't too long from each others damage, but abilities we prioritize are completely different.

    You are welcome to check other boss fights and give any advice you can give me, but for now I'm interested about that fight since there ability usage is so different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soviett View Post
    The thing I'm mostly interested is: which one of us is doing it right?
    A huge part of that fight is AoE so you'll be fire and brimstoning a lot, at least when mobs have high hp. When they're low many are dead and you'll resort to shadowburn the remaining adds. Most packs (except snakelady) have enough mobs that you don't want to single target them. Therefore you're likely to use a lot less chaos bolts than shadowburns. I'd say you're the one doing it "right".

  4. #344
    Hello! I recently switched to a 25 man guild where I've been getting my ass kicked damage-wise on most fights as destro. IJ parse + armory linked (it's farm for us so we stand in the mortars to emulate a patchwork scenario). The ilvls in the top 5 are all relatively even, between 563-567ish I think (I'm 567 atm).

    www worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-a9lzji8o5o2d2mia/sum/damageDone/?s=9587&e=9829
    us battle.net/wow/en/character/zuljin/Signals/simple

    I know that my damage isn't uncompetitive but I think I'm playing relatively optimally (few mistakes here and there but nothing major in my eyes) so with destro being so overtuned I don't see why I'm not topping the meters. My one theory is that the fight is so short that burst damage classes with good openers (enh shams etc) are doing better than sustain specs like destro. I'm using BBoY and I use it on most fights since I think I'm pretty good at landing 7 + 10 stack chaos bolts each proc, but I also have a KTT to work with. If anyone sees anything I could be doing better I would be very thankful!

  5. #345
    Never really asked for helped before. Started raiding on my destro lock and I seem to be incredibly inconsistent with my damage. I'm not really sure what it is.

    Armory:

    http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...%C3%B8n/simple
    http://www.askmrrobot.com/wow/gear/u...m%C3%B8%C3%B8n

    Battle Logs:
    10 man Malkorok kill

    http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/r...?s=1169&e=1373
    http://raidbots.com/comparebot/52d219d574254e2230000144

    Roughly 184k DPS

    10 Man Spoils:

    http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/r...?s=1830&e=2261
    http://raidbots.com/comparebot/52d21a0474254efb2f000112

    Roughly 106k DPS

    10 Man Garrosh Attempt:

    No log, but my Skada showed 104k DPS (although I was on engineer for the first phase)


    I'm trying to figure out why my DPS is so all over the place. It's driving me a bit nuts. Thanks for any help!

  6. #346
    This is from Sha of Pride Flex. I don't think I got a single Blessing but I did do a few rotational mistakes early on.

    Logs: http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-lqjc9vjyx5vqkura/ (I'm the warlock named Powerpala)
    Armory: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...rpala/advanced

  7. #347
    Logs from the last four fights in Siege, what can I improve on As Demo?


    Logs: http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/8...um/damageDone/
    Armory: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...akile/advanced
    Last edited by Drakile; 2014-01-14 at 11:44 PM. Reason: Clarification

    Armory^

  8. #348
    Looking for some help for my guilds other destro lock, whose dps seems a little bit lower than his gear would suggest. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

    Logs: worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-azujsq0vs667eobv/sum/damageDone/?s=8794&e=9266
    Armory: us.battle.net/wow/en/character/barthilas/Chokilatrain/advanced

  9. #349
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drakile View Post
    Logs from the last four fights in Siege, what can I improve on As Demo?


    Logs: http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/8...um/damageDone/
    Armory: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...akile/advanced

    1. Your doom damage is low
      - time with trinkets, dont refresh when it is about to run out
      - make sure you have full pandemic duration doom with all buffs/trinkets etc after pull.
    2. I don't recommend playing with imp glyph
    3. You shadowbolt too much - might be related to too low fury from no imps because of glyph.
    4. Your choice of ToC vs soul fire in meta seems really random and meta soul fire dmg is generally low.
      - I prefer to hover around 6-8 molten core procs and then unload in meta when procs/cd are up
      - You should generally always be able to avoid going meta without procs if you do correct mini nukes during trinket procs.
    5. Start playing with double dark soul
      - use fel flame/ToC if you need to move
      - plan movement with personal/raid portal
    6. You sometimes lifetap way too much
      - aim to end the fight with 10% mana and 0 fury.
    7. Exploit adds more
      - more shadowflame for max fury/mc procs
      - get killing blows for free fury
    8. Imagine all spells outside of meta do 0 damage and the only way to do damage is to unleash a nuclear explosion in meta with the fury your 0 dmg spells generated.
      - On the logs your damage should be very spiky to the extreme - currently there are lots of mini spikes which is generally not optimal demo play.

  10. #350
    Quote Originally Posted by muglia View Post
    1. Your doom damage is low
      - time with trinkets, dont refresh when it is about to run out
      - make sure you have full pandemic duration doom with all buffs/trinkets etc after pull.
    2. I don't recommend playing with imp glyph
    3. You shadowbolt too much - might be related to too low fury from no imps because of glyph.
    4. Your choice of ToC vs soul fire in meta seems really random and meta soul fire dmg is generally low.
      - I prefer to hover around 6-8 molten core procs and then unload in meta when procs/cd are up
      - You should generally always be able to avoid going meta without procs if you do correct mini nukes during trinket procs.
    5. Start playing with double dark soul
      - use fel flame/ToC if you need to move
      - plan movement with personal/raid portal
    6. You sometimes lifetap way too much
      - aim to end the fight with 10% mana and 0 fury.
    7. Exploit adds more
      - more shadowflame for max fury/mc procs
      - get killing blows for free fury
    8. Imagine all spells outside of meta do 0 damage and the only way to do damage is to unleash a nuclear explosion in meta with the fury your 0 dmg spells generated.
      - On the logs your damage should be very spiky to the extreme - currently there are lots of mini spikes which is generally not optimal demo play.
    I appreciate that sir, I am just getting back into raiding a bit and will take the advice and apply it.

    Armory^

  11. #351
    Looking for some criticism on my multi-dotting. I haven't played affliction seriously since ICC, so I'm definitely a bit rusty. Here are two parses from protectors (first one is 10N, second is 10H):

    http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/r.../?s=947&e=1262
    http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/r...?s=3278&e=3868

    Armory: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte.../Gewd/advanced

    My affliction gear is the same as what's currently on armory, with one exception - I remove KTT and put on BBoY.

    I'm not really sure what I should be looking for to analyze myself, so I'd appreciate any criticism. I feel like I tend to get a bit overwhelmed keeping dots up on all targets as the fight goes on. Unstable affliction seems to be the biggest culprit; I feel like I need to be soul swapping almost constantly to keep it up.

    Thanks in advance!

  12. #352
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    Hello everyone. I want to ask you about something. When should i swich spec to affliction? I see a lot of locks playing pve with affli spec and they said it should be done at high ilvl.. but when is this high ilvl? ATM i don't have any logs but i'm doing around 250k dps on hc encounters... i think it's a bit low for 563 ilvl so i want to improve. My wish spec would be demo but I know it's playable around BIS gear. So please tell me what to do to improve my dps.
    TY very much for help
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  13. #353
    Hello dear warlocks !
    I've been hesitating to post on this forum. But now I'm really wondering if our warlock is regular or way to low and just doing fine because of his class. We are beginning garrosh HC 10m.
    Here are 2 logs from 2 different nights. The first one he was on garrosh duty, the second one he did the engineer (he did it well btw).

    Armory http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...Mouai/advanced

    Here is the first night (garrosh duty) : http://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/aJzwvNm1gcRqbt9j
    The second one (doing engineer) : http://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/JcQTFDpPWrMHbavG

    There is only one (yeah we suck ) good attempt last night, where we're dead in the terrace of the endless spring http://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/...amage&fight=22. With a 6 minutes fight and as many adds I believe he is way too low for a warlock, even if he does the engineer (especially the number of shadowburn). Any tips to improve his dps ? Or is he just fine ?

    Thank you warlocks !
    Do not hesitate if you need more informations.

  14. #354
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    I'm interested to see if there's anything I can do to push more DPS. I'm always looking to improve but I feel I've come to a crossroads where I don't know what to do to push out more damage, while at the same time I feel I can. I feel there's more potential.

    Primarily looking for help with Destruction because I feel my gear isn't good enough for Affliction yet, so that's what I decided to log.

    I just went into an LFR and pulled a log of the first part. Here it is: http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/kczxpeb5vh3u7ynw/
    My armory can be found here: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte.../Deim/advanced

    What can I do better?

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    I feel like my numbers should be higher

    I feel as though that my numbers should be higher than they currently are as Destruction. There is another lock in the guild that does ~ 20 - 60K DPS more than I am and I would like to close that gap. I was ilvl 556 for the most of these logs and our other lock is ~ ilvl 566. I am not sure if it's a gear thing, if I am not timing my CB / SB well enough with multiple procs or what. Would 10 ilvls, with the current stat inflation, count for that much of a difference in damage?

    My dood
    http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...ution/advanced

    Jan 21 full - http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/k...um/damageDone/

    Jan 21 some example kills -
    http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/k.../?s=974&e=1253
    http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/k...?s=1587&e=1923
    http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/k...?s=4144&e=4448
    http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/k...?s=5789&e=6365


    Also, looking at my numbers in RAIDBOTS I am looking terrible in there (50% or less often). Am I getting blown out of the water there due to competing against Heroic Warforge players or what? How bad am I on here, or is it just a numbers specific to the ingest of Raidbots?

    http://raidbots.com/epeenbot/us/trollbane/deresolution/
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  16. #356
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    I'm posting this for our Warlock, since he's lost completely. He feels he's nowhere near what he could and should be, and I suppose there is something right in that.

    Profile:
    http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...lismm/advanced

    http://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/MAfDyP4NLKBWwGxr
    This is yesterday's Juggernaut kill. We stack away during phase 2, but that doesn't explain his low DPS I suppose. The druid was horribly geared and he's 20k above him.

    This is a common sight in most fights. He's never above 250k, even on TFP when we stack them up(He's on like 260k, whereas I am on 450k or so).

    I have no clue about Warlocks, the only thing I noticed was immolate uptime, but I don't know. Any help would be appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Draghonfourt View Post
    I'm posting this for our Warlock, since he's lost completely. He feels he's nowhere near what he could and should be, and I suppose there is something right in that.

    This is a common sight in most fights. He's never above 250k, even on TFP when we stack them up(He's on like 260k, whereas I am on 450k or so).

    I have no clue about Warlocks, the only thing I noticed was immolate uptime, but I don't know. Any help would be appreciated.
    I see him over 250K on almost every fight this week in raid (the log you didn't link). He is also reforged into Crit heavy, whereas most people are going a bit heavier on the haste I believe. Also on the fights where he does really well I do see him using Fire and Brim w/ incinerates (the different looking icon in those logs). With more haste he could do even more damage probably.
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  18. #358
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    Hey guys, posting this here for my lock as he cant post links here:

    It would be very nice if you you look at my logs. I dont know why I get so little damage on Garrosh 10HC


    http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-sql3z68ikuz76g9s/


    What is going wrong?
    Is it my gear in relation to everyone else in the raid?
    Am I doing less damage because I have to kill the engineer in phase 1?
    Or because I'm running too much for when axe spawns?


    I would greatly appreciate your constructive criticism

  19. #359
    Whats better dps, grim of sac or supremacy? for 107% mastery

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    ^Most people use sac, or so I've heard.
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    I got my own problem though , and even though I wasn't sure if it belongs here, I decided to post it here anyway.
    I got a question about WoL.
    Does it always register Potions as "buff cast" ? Could there be a reason why it wouldn't register using a potion ?
    I am asking because I was watching our yesterday's logs, and I found that most of our dps didn't use potions at all.
    It was our first raid as a guild, downed 8 bosses with first run which I am pretty happy with and they seem to know what they're doing, so I just find it hard to believe, but logs are logs.

    WoL: http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-d6v48j072cvv44b5/
    PS: logs for first 2 bosses are not listed, forgot to turn on WoL, using it first time <.<
    I'm the lock. (wwjdlink)(ignore the fact that i'm affli on armory, I practice/have fun with it outside of raid so when I get enough gear, I can switch to it immediatly and actually know how to play it.)

    According to WoL: I used potions a total of 21 times on 19 boss tries, Waldim used 11 times, and no one else used potions at all, or so says WoL.

    Can it be wrong ? no ?

    EDIT: i asked them and they said they didn't use any pots indeed. guess WoL was right.
    Last edited by Alyzyr; 2014-01-26 at 06:40 PM.

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