As the title says they don't want people using pvp gear to get in raid finder so they keep lowering the ilvl of the pvp gear but there quite happy to have people using heroic thunderforged gear join arena/rbg with more ap/sp loads more sockets than pvp gear and so on will there be any use for a pvp geared tank any more especially when they can have a tank in pve gear with like 700-800k hp with a pve geard healer following him around healing him to max..am i the only one who thinks blizz is making pvp quite crap these days..why dont they remove pvp gear since it wont be much good soon anyway..