Isnt that quack Glenn Jones supposed to be releasing "proof" that this is all organised today?
And it's banned in pretty much every country in the Western World, the US has the pleasure of sharing the list of "Countries that allow the death penalty" with 20 other nations, including North Korea, Iran, China, Afghanistan, Sudan and other wholesome countries.
Maybe he'll burst out crying on television again. I seriously think he's mentally deranged to act the way he does.
I just read that on a news site as well. Good and sensible choice.
'Conspiring to use weapons of mass destruction' is weird to me though.
Can someone comment on:
- Any bombs in general being considered WMD in MA/Federal law?
- Intent to cause as much dmg as possible just not having the means for it being considered conspiracy to use WMD?
I think it is obvious from the bomb types and the damage they caused that they were pretty far off from acquiring ABC material.
Also wouldn't this mean that any mass killer that used any kind of (set) explosives should be charged with conspiracy to use WMD, since if those crazy people actually had WMD they would have used them to cause more damage?
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How much money are we gonna spend on this guy? 9000 public employee's on overtime pay. A huge medical bill to save his life.
Mass doesnt have a death penalty, so another 60 years to keep him fed and housed.
Anyone hoping for rehabilitation and an early release? im sure he isnt a "bad person" just fell on hard times (typical sob story people fall for).
Holocaust: Jews and gypsies(religious), even homosexuals could be classed as that.
IRA: Part for the 'freedom' and against protestants.
majority of all european conflicts (england vs span and france was mainly due to catholic vs protestant)
Fairly sure alot of the islam fuelled deaths are internal (the muslim equivalent of catholic vs protestaant)
without the facts there are parts to say that is merel concidence
I think what he is implying is once you charge and try him, and his citizenship is revoked, he will become Russian and wether they can claim custody since he isn't an American then.If the US revoke after he 'serves' his time changes the story.
Since the russians suspected his brother had links with chechen rebels, an enemy of russia, i can see them requesting him otherwise so they can 'question' him.
2 Hour gunfight after killing a security guard, Murder.
Bags they had could be a "coincidence" they were in bags similar to those with the bombs.
Suspicious? Posting islamic doesn't make you a terrorist, like posting German doesn't make you a nazi, posting like a 'gangsta' doesn't make you one (idiot yes, gangsta no). You need proof they made the bombs, be it explosives at home of prints on the bomb or instructions at home
Traitor is open to debate, technically Russia is his country (since they are linked with Chechen rebel, after 'independence' he would class his country as Chechnya
May of already been said.
Chechen blow up school in russia killing hundreds: generic terrorist attack
Chechen blows up a marathon in US wounding hundreds: fears its a globally supported religious attack
Tiny over-the-top response, why they target the US because the terror lasts,
Don't forget the CFR definition that you supplied which contained the phrase "in furtherance of political or social objectives". As I stated above, "social objectives" is so vague that it could mean anything.
Peoples attention span is very short. In 30 years nobody will care anymore.
In germany they recently released domestic terrorists from the 70s. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Army_Faction)
There was a political discussion if that was the right choice but nobody would 'attack' them. Barely anyone could even recognize them.
I think legally it means they're alleging that there was an agreement between two or more people to use a WMD. If you're involved in a conspiracy to do something illegal, you can also be charged and convicted for anything illegal done by any member of the conspiracy in furtherance of the conspiracy. It also changes the evidence rules about hearsay.
I would assume they'll be charging him with more stuff.
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Doubtful. More likely, they're just using the government's definition of WMD, which is so overkill its laughable. Besides potato guns, anything with even a few ounces of gunpowder it technically a "Weapon of Mass Destruction" if you try to hurt someone with it. If I put four ounces of black powder substitute in saran wrap and tape it to the end of my nerf gun along with a cap from a kid's cap gun and then shoot it at someone, I've just created a "Weapon of Mass Destruction" in the exact same legal category as the bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. <shakes head>
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In theory, I might be able to support the death penalty, but in practice, I'm opposed to it. Between our justice system's "bugs" (prosecutors and police acting in bad faith, honest mistakes, etc), the huge cost of actually executing someone (it's much more expensive than keeping them in prison for life), and the potential to make already violent crimes worse ("Oh crap, someone died during a robbery. Guess the criminals had better kill all the witnesses, since they're already sure to get the death penalty if they get caught") I don't think the death penalty can be justified in the United States today.