All we can do to stop mages is cross our fingers and hope GC gets moved onto Titan (niart a yb tih ro, taerht a ton si siht).
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Viable for sure. But they're being outdone by even the weakest melee in the game in most aspects. That said, the gap between the different melee is smaller than ever. I feel like in 5.3 you'll be able to play a rogue to rank 1 with only slightly more ease than an enhancement shaman or arms warrior.
Also the hunter nerfs are a slap on the wrist. The class will be fine. The death of thugcleave will come with the rogue nerfs, not the hunter nerfs.
Originally Posted by High Overlord Saurfangi7-6700 @2.8GHz | Nvidia GTX 960M | 16GB DDR4-2400MHz | 1 TB Toshiba SSD| Dell XPS 15
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Rofl. Feral is OP 1v1, is Rank 1 capable right now running with FPS or FMP or Jungle, and is in the exact same spot as Warriors in RBGs, except oh wait you can heal too. Feral has it better then the whole warrior class on live. What i'd give to have a comp that works as well right now as FPS or Jungle.
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No I got your argument. Warriors were op for 1 season, and gimp the last oh 20 months before that; so we got used to being OP, yeah that same kind of retarded bullshit some guy comes up with whenever a class is nerfed into the dirt. I wonder how many rogues you said that too in 5.0.
The problem is your argument is either stupid, see above, or just completely removed from reality, ferals worse off then warriors on live...
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Ferals are more than fine, but underrepresented. Warriors are at least equal to Ferals, but underrepresented (still better represented than Feral). In your previous post you made it look like I called Ferals bad.
Let's put it another way; I've been playing Hunter as my main between Vanilla and WotLK S6, after which my Feral Druid became my main up untill now. Combined, my mainclass has probably had 3-4 good seasons, a few moments in which they were actually OP but both were usually nerfed/scaled down before the season even started. That's it. Both of these classes have mostly been eating dirt for years and years. You've basically never heard me complaining about it though.
On the other hand, Warriors have been either more than 'good' or OP for most of these 8 years now, perhaps probably except for Vanilla and (parts of) season(s) here and there. For that reason, Warriors shouldn't complain when they are 'only viable' (not OP) for once.
This, was my whole point.
Last edited by Balduvian; 2013-05-02 at 11:20 PM.
Lol FOR ONCE. I guess you didnt play the majority of Cataclysm, or the Start of Wrath. You also dont understand the proper way to use rep. When you have slightly less high end arena rep as feral, but less then 1/10 the number of people playing feral, that argument does not favor your side.
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Even during the 'majority of Cataclysm, or the start of wrath', Warriors were fine/good. I never said they've been OP for 8 years. I said they've been good or OP for most of the 8 years and that is just a fact, make of it what you want.
Also, 1/10? I'm pretty sure there are still 11 classes, 33 specs. Not to mention, the fact that less people play Feral in the first place is simply because it is not as 'facerollable', easy or overpowered as a truckload of other classes/specs out there. A spec/class that is good and easy will always be chosen over a good but not so easy spec/class.
Anyway, I'm out of here. It's the same pointless shit as always.
Hybrids will be massively overpowered. Enhance, elemental, feral, ret, boomkin will be able to shit on any pure while keeping up their teammates if 5.3 goes live in it's current state.
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Warriors are for all intents and purposes at their 4.3 level lows right now in 5.2 because all other specs/classes are that much better off. Yes, even enhance.
The spec is also rare for the exact same reason rets are rare or enhance is rare: because they have healing specs with which it's a ton easier to find teams/get higher ratings.
Last edited by Flaks; 2013-05-03 at 12:46 AM.
Originally Posted by High Overlord Saurfangi7-6700 @2.8GHz | Nvidia GTX 960M | 16GB DDR4-2400MHz | 1 TB Toshiba SSD| Dell XPS 15
Stupidest thing I've read on these forums this year.Even during the 'majority of Cataclysm, or the start of wrath', Warriors were fine/good.
Let's get this back on topic.
Post Find Weakness nerf, post what Ive read is a substantial CnD nerf, Rogues just got put in the middle of the pack. Mages are now the last stupid OP on Live class to remain. Hunters, Shadow Priests, and now Rogues got what was coming to them.
Always mages... always.
Last edited by Korgoth; 2013-05-03 at 02:35 AM.
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FPS is the best Feral comp with 1.08% representation above 2200, which is exactly the same 1.08% representation that Arms/BM/Rsham has (top warrior comp). What Feral has that warriors don't is FMP, with another 1.08% 2200+ representation. The second and third place Warrior comps are Arms/BM/Disc and Arms/BM/Hpal - each with 0.43% representation. So Ferals have only moderately more comp diversity than Warriors right now.
Now, Druids are in a much better position than warriors, but that's because Resto, Feral, and Balance are all competitive specs right now. But the claim that warrior comps don't work as well as FPS and Jungle isn't true, all three KFC variants are provably as common as those top feral comps. There are lots of KFC-variant gladiators this season, warriors aren't terrible - but as Flaks pointed out the Defensive Stance buff is going to help them a lot.
Feral 3's comps:
http://www.worldofwargraphs.com/stat...0-0-0-0-0.html
Warrior 3's comps:
http://www.worldofwargraphs.com/stat...0-0-0-0-0.html
As for predictions about what the dominant class will be in 5.3, my bet is that since Frost Mages are currently the most populous 2200+ spec of any class, and Mages as a whole are the most populous class above 2200, and Mages aren't being nerfed while Priests (the next most populous class, Shadow being the next most populous spec) are - that mages will retain their title. I dislike that I sound like a broken record, but people always ask questions like this - the safe bet for a guarenteed high rating since vanilla has been frost mage - other imbalances come and go, but frost mages stay the same.