Obama: "We need to ignore signs of tyranny."

[Mirishka]

@OP

Without meaning to be rude... you really, really suck at interpretation. You're twisting the meaning of his comment completely out of context. Take off the tin foil hat, and quickly.

[Dakia]

I'd like you to show your impartial study that 'fox news has more content' than the other news networks. I'm not sure what you consider 'content', either. Is fearmongering and bullshitting content? Is Hannity or the Mad Money guy or ... whats his face that got kicked off fox news and might be facing jail time for his gold buying scheme..., are those content? Or are you just saying fox news has less commercial time than the other networks?

I asked a question. See that question mark at the end of the sentence? Yeah, that means I was asking if he knew if that was the case, since I seemed to remember it having been a story. It wasn't making any argument in either way.

IIRC, no Hannity, etc are not considered news content. They are considered opinion shows.

[e] Shit, I can't type. There was no question mark and now I feel like an idiot. =p It was intended to be a question though.

[Felya]

arctic daishi is having a field day with you guys

I'm pretty sure everyone who is posting here is enjoying this. I don't think many of these folks are masochist. No offense meant to those who are.

[Csnyder]

his actions speak louder then his words, he has signed more executive orders then all other presidents combined
he has kept few promisses and always is saying one thing but doing another

[Aeluron Lightsong]

Curse that Obama. HE WAS SUPPOSED TO BRING BALANCE TO THE BUDGET AND TO THE UNITED STATES!!!




I'm being silly. Don't hurt me mods

his actions speak louder then his words, he has signed more executive orders then all other presidents combined
he has kept few promisses and always is saying one thing but doing another

No he hasn't. The presidents before him have done much more.

[obdigore]

I asked a question. See that question mark at the end of the sentence? Yeah, that means I was asking if he knew if that was the case, since I seemed to remember it having been a story. It wasn't making any argument in either way.

IIRC, no Hannity, etc are not considered news content. They are considered opinion shows.

Wasn't there a study that anyone who disagrees with me is a pedophile? I think I remember reading a study...

Seriously though. If you don't have an actual study that supports what you are saying, don't go alluding to such a thing. I would honestly like to see such a study done and see what they consider content or not.

[Felya]

I asked a question. See that question mark at the end of the sentence? Yeah, that means I was asking if he knew if that was the case, since I seemed to remember it having been a story. It wasn't making any argument in either way.

IIRC, no Hannity, etc are not considered news content. They are considered opinion shows.

How do you know the study you are asking a question about, does not include Hannity?

[Sunseeker]

Yeah, it really is defending Stalin from being an idiot. How do you justify defending Stalin when he is called an idiot, not the same as defending Stalin? Lets not forget, what you are doing is claiming Roosevelt was as much an idiot as Stalin, in a thread that has nothing to do with Roosevelt.

So what if it is. Stalin wasn't an idiot. People who claim their enemies were morons, lunatics or monsters miss the fact that they were normal people. That their idiocy, madness or cruelty was not some massive deviation from the norm, they were just better at it or had more opportunities to carry it out.

[obdigore]

his actions speak louder then his words, he has signed more executive orders then all other presidents combined
he has kept few promisses and always is saying one thing but doing another

Uhm... that asanine assertation has already been argued against... damn I wanted another a word. Oh well.

[Dakia]

Wasn't there a study that anyone who disagrees with me is a pedophile? I think I remember reading a study...

Seriously though. If you don't have an actual study that supports what you are saying, don't go alluding to such a thing. I would honestly like to see such a study done and see what they consider content or not.

Here is a Forbes article on it. http://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffberc...hannel-by-far/

It was a quick Google search and I haven't read through it entirely. I was close. FN has 1% less, but the post might have been about having more news content that MSNBC. Like I said, it was a question and not a statement.

How do you know the study you are asking a question about, does not include Hannity?

IIRC means that I'm not sure, but I recall it being as such.

[Felya]

So what if it is. Stalin wasn't an idiot. People who claim their enemies were morons, lunatics or monsters miss the fact that they were normal people. That their idiocy, madness or cruelty was not some massive deviation from the norm, they were just better at it or had more opportunities to carry it out.

Other than being off topic... I would call someone who kills off thousands of scientist, artists, mathematicians and teachers because he was paranoid, an idiot. Him being an idiot could be due to being paranoid. Which is also why he signed a treaty with Germany, to only be ransacked and not be taken over not due to capability, but luck. He was also one of the few healthy members of a comity that created Israel, in a way that we pay for to this day. How can you not call him an idiot? Because a footstool at speeches, really made Russians believe he was taller? (Hint, it didn't)

[Tastyfish]

Curse that Obama. HE WAS SUPPOSED TO BRING BALANCE TO THE BUDGET AND TO THE UNITED STATES!!!




I'm being silly. Don't hurt me mods





No he hasn't. The presidents before him have done much more.

I feel you had an Obi-wan moment here.. lol

[Grizzly Willy]

Caring about Fox News is like caring about the special Olympics if the participants were members of an internationally maligned news syndicate filled with neo-fascists who care about family values.

I think I found my new sig.

[theturn]

Since when is it bad to have opposing viewpoints and counter arguments. I seem to recall 6 years ago it was cool to criticize the president, burn him or hang him in effigy. Yet now if you simply say I disagree you get accused of "gumming up the works." If someones argument is dumb, crazy or uninformed then counter their argument and show everyone why it is. Don't go running away from the argument crying about how someone disagrees with you.

Disagreement is vital for a true and free society. Right and Left should be fighting for the idea that everyone has a voice and it should be heard whether you agree with it or not.

[Dakia]

Other than being off topic... I would call someone who kills off thousands of scientist, artists, mathematicians and teachers because he was paranoid, an idiot. Him being an idiot could be due to being paranoid. Which is also why he signed a treaty with Germany, to only be ransacked and not be taken over not due to capability, but luck. He was also one of the few healthy members of a comity that created Israel, in a way that we pay for to this day. How can you not call him an idiot? Because a footstool at speeches, really made Russians believe he was taller? (Hint, it didn't)

You're missing my point entirely.

[Cthulhu 2020]

No he hasn't. The presidents before him have done much more.

If you look at his executive orders, they are extraordinarily low, and less than some of the more recent presidents preceding him, including Clinton.

In before Executive Actions and Executive Directives.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

I feel you had an Obi-wan moment here.. lol

Well done sir.

[Felya]

Here is a Forbes article on it. http://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffberc...hannel-by-far/

It was a quick Google search and I haven't read through it entirely. I was close. FN has 1% less, but the post might have been about having more news content that MSNBC. Like I said, it was a question and not a statement..

That link is not about content.

IIRC means that I'm not sure, but I recall it being as such.

You are sure enough to post it though? Can we discuss it based on you being the one to introduce the subject?

[steale]

Interesting fact: in the same time period that support for gun rights has been increasing, the proportion of household and personal gun ownership has been dropping significantly.



Beg the question moar.

America has the highest number of firearms per capita in the world, and some of the most permissive gun laws, and it has four times the homicide rate of almost every other industrialised nation.

America also has Lil Wayne and Jay-Z. Coincidence? I think not.

[Arcanist]

Oh give it up with this freedom and tyranny stuff. I used to be a principled Libertarian, and from there an anarchist...then I become really disillusioned and hold to no school of though at all, preferring not to limit myself with labels. Self-interested, free-spirited, and morally neutral basically. Whatever you want to call that, idc.

You know what I've found after countless discussions and debates with people? The majority WANT security, they WANT certainty, and lastly they WANT that gilded cage. No one wants liberty or freedom! Those things are too scary and people may do things I don't like/approve of! People will run rampant (ignoring the fact that statists and politicians ALREADY run rampant)! Give the people a steady job, their TV, and their cheap beer and they don't care about "freedom". They don't care about what crime the state inflicts on their neighbors...as long as it doesn't happen TO THEM. Hell, those fools probably deserved it.

Keep your head down. If you've done nothing wrong, then you've nothing to fear and thus have no right to protest being searched or monitored. The mantra of the herd.