Originally Posted by
Firefly33
So just to back this tape back one more time. A guild consisting of 6 people with 0/12, 2 people with 2/12, 1 guy with 1/12, and one alt with 0/12 and a main with heroic experience enters a raid. They are mostly strangers to eachother in about 490-500 average item level. They are not hardcore raiders, in all sense and purposes a casual guild with 3 hour raid times (that usually becomes 2 hours because of late show ups.
They enter ToT. They spend less than an hour on the first boss. They spend 2 hours on Horridon, They spen less than an hour on council and even less on Tortos. In about 4 hours of actual time on the bosses, this group has progressed further than anyone in that group had done ever before. In 30 minutes in Megaera they reach the secon last head.
Is this unreasonable amount of time with a reasonable amount of skill/effort.
Oh, and on the skill/effort part. Talking about the guild that does not pre-pot, most people do not have professions and the optimal enchants/gems/reforge. People are failing on mechancis such as blowing up balls on Jin'Rokh, standing in swipe and other shit on horridon, standing in shit on council, dieng by rockfall on Tortos, not kicking turtles on Tortos, deaths by acid rain on Megaera etc.
The dps is so low that Horridon is on 80-90% after the last gate, sul is on 40% when he casts sandstorm and megaera has time to cast 5 breaths on the first head.
So again, is this reasonable? I think it is.