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    Quote Originally Posted by Olo View Post
    Seeing how its legal with judicial oversight its can't be an abuse of power, it's only dishonest in that it's secret, and it's not a direct threat to public interest
    So if something is legal it means its not an abuse of power or in the public interest to stop it? Tell that to the Americans who were held in camps during WW2.
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  2. #62
    Quote Originally Posted by oblivionx View Post
    If Prizm is half as pervasive and invasive as it seems there is no way it's legal.

    Lawyering something might find a niche to call it legal, but we all know it's not.
    Yes, because you know more about laws than federal judges that authorized the program.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kunah View Post
    Because it fits in nicely with the Alex Jones type black helicopter anti gov conspiracy theory's that are in vogue now. Charge of the Knights in Tin Foil.
    Yeah the ACLU is batshit insane.
    In the fell clutch of circumstance
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    My head is bloody, but unbowed.

  4. #64
    Quote Originally Posted by Olo View Post
    Truthiness is a quality characterizing a "truth" that a person making an argument or assertion claims to know intuitively "from the gut" or because it "feels right" without regard to evidence, logic, intellectual examination, or facts.

    This is you.
    We all know they took it too far and what's legal is what WE let them do.

    Obamaites seem to have a problem with anything that reflects poorly on the worst president ever, that is you.
    The most successful tyranny is not the one that uses force to assure uniformity but the one that removes the awareness of other possibilities.

  5. #65
    Quote Originally Posted by GreatOak View Post
    So if something is legal it means its not an abuse of power or in the public interest to stop it? Tell that to the Americans who were held in camps during WW2.
    These are two different things. If an action is legal it can't be abusing power because you're just using the power you're given.

  6. #66
    Quote Originally Posted by Rukentuts View Post
    Yes, because you know more about laws than federal judges that authorized the program.
    Ever wonder what happened when you are supporting stuff you were probably ranting and raving about under Bush?

    Or is it just some sort of koolaid haze?
    The most successful tyranny is not the one that uses force to assure uniformity but the one that removes the awareness of other possibilities.

  7. #67
    Quote Originally Posted by oblivionx View Post
    We all know they took it too far and what's legal is what WE let them do.

    Obamaites seem to have a problem with anything that reflects poorly on the worst president ever, that is you.
    Worst president ever? please.

    You either have zero knowledge about American history or you're just full of it.

  8. #68
    Quote Originally Posted by oblivionx View Post
    We all know they took it too far and what's legal is what WE let them do.

    Obamaites seem to have a problem with anything that reflects poorly on the worst president ever, that is you.
    Right, this is legal because we allow it to be. I support the program and don't care that it was started under Bush and continued under Obama.

  9. #69
    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymitylol View Post
    Any society that would give up liberty to gain security will deserve neither and lose both. - Benjamin Franklin
    "Don't believe everything you read on the internet" - Abraham Lincoln

  10. #70
    Quote Originally Posted by Wells View Post
    Worst president ever? please.

    You either have zero knowledge about American history or you're just full of it.
    And every person in this thread know that if this was 6 years ago you would be ranting about impeaching Bush the war criminal for it.
    The most successful tyranny is not the one that uses force to assure uniformity but the one that removes the awareness of other possibilities.

  11. #71
    Quote Originally Posted by oblivionx View Post
    Ever wonder what happened when you are supporting stuff you were probably ranting and raving about under Bush?

    Or is it just some sort of koolaid haze?
    'Koolaid' and 'sheep' are always intriguing arguments.

  12. #72
    Quote Originally Posted by oblivionx View Post
    And every person in this thread know that if this was 6 years ago you would be ranting about impeaching Bush the war criminal for it.
    Well now that isn't a dodge or anything.

  13. #73
    Quote Originally Posted by Olo View Post
    Right, this is legal because we allow it to be. I support the program and don't care that it was started under Bush and continued under Obama.
    Reading is comprehension, Replying seems not to be.

    It's legal IF we allow it. If we decide, WE decide, we don't want to allow it it will be illegal.
    The most successful tyranny is not the one that uses force to assure uniformity but the one that removes the awareness of other possibilities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oblivionx View Post
    And every person in this thread know that if this was 6 years ago you would be ranting about impeaching Bush the war criminal for it.
    For knowing that my phone number (not even my name) called another phone number (and not their name)?

    Your local police departments can track you by location. And you're bitching about the NSA?

  15. #75
    Quote Originally Posted by Wells View Post
    Well now that isn't a dodge or anything.
    What am I dodging? blanks?
    The most successful tyranny is not the one that uses force to assure uniformity but the one that removes the awareness of other possibilities.

  16. #76
    A true American hero doing his part to stop the Obama administration and liberals like the ones on this anti-American board from destroying America. Kudos to him.

  17. #77
    The funny part is that nobody will give a shit in let's say two months.

  18. #78
    Quote Originally Posted by Rukentuts View Post
    'Koolaid' and 'sheep' are always intriguing arguments.
    sheeple is an even better iteration on that superb argument.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rukentuts View Post
    For knowing that my phone number (not even my name) called another phone number (and not their name)?

    Your local police departments can track you by location. And you're bitching about the NSA?
    lol That's the part about this I think a lot of people are missing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oblivionx View Post
    What am I dodging? blanks?
    How are you measuring Obama as the worst president ever?

    Civil rights?
    Economics?
    Foreign policy?

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