I guess that what he's trying to argue is that if the culture is such as where women are raised not to believe they have any right to bodily sovereignty regarding sex, the emotional impact of rape is lessened.
But not because culture makes it all better... but because it's a culture forcibly supresses the self-preservation drive on women! Which is pretty sick in itself.
I'd rather not continue to discuss the validity of the details of my analogy in light of the grander scheme here, especially not when the point is so sorely missed. The point was to highlight how the same act can induce different levels of trauma depending on the standards of the culture one is in, which shouldn't so much require analogies to demonstrate as common sense and a basic understanding of the workings of society.
There really ought to be a prize for the millionth or so person to misinterpret what I said.
Boo Hoo, let me dial WHINE-1-1 and call you a wambulance.
That was a conjecture that was derived from the facts we have today.
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If that's directed at OP, then you must think the law handled the situation well? How is it you feel it was just, when it fails on the fronts of restorative justice to the victim, rehabilitative action for the perpetrators, and deterrence for would-be rapists?
Believe it or not, rape as such exists beyond human culture. Plenty animal species have 2 pathways for sex: female accepts male for mating, they might or might not perform a mating ceremony, and then comes sex... or male rapes female while female resists physically.
The females of every mammal and bird species are hardwired to mate with males of their chosing. Doing so is in their best interest because since the female is the one that gets pregnant/incubates/raises the offspring, they don't want to waste that energy with the offspring of males of lower quality.
So females resist rape instinctively, and rape can only be consumed if the female is overpowered. In any case, the females react with the self-preservation drive kicking in.
The only social construct is what some cultures have, that women don't even have the right to chose sexual mate, that they don't have the right to resist it.
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Because there is no reason to believe that an immensely emotional and traumatic response to rape is an innate feature of the human psyche. None that anyone on your side of the argument has made anyway. There is, however, plenty of reason to believe the contrary. If someone were to tear your clothes off in public, you would feel defiled in quite a few ways. This is because the rights that our society bestows upon individuals, rights that are social constructs, are violated. To someone in a society where those rights don't exist, or aren't valued, you would only be making a rude intrusion into their personal space.
Yeah, there's always one of you types in threads about rape or pedophilia.
Going on about how rape/pedophilia are not inherently wrong, and society has just made a mountain out of a molehill and that the trauma is entirely created by people who just don't understand, man.
I especially like how this was in response to you accusing me of being edgy, and when I asked you how I was being so, you respond in an unrelated edgy tirade of your own.
To have come to the conclusion that you have, you have either not completely read everything I've written, or have comprehension skills that are markedly abysmal. And neither case warrants me spending more time responding to you.