This girl.

[Darkrulerxxx]

Dude your fucking 14, go play video games or hang out with your friends...trust me you don't want to be dealing with this kind of bullshit at your age. You don't know what you want and Girls at that age sure as hell dont know what they want. Leave your raging hormones to fapping

[Gheld]

Leave her alone and move on with life.

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Seconded.

Besides, why would you want to waste your time being around somebody who doesn't want you around? Every minute you waste pursuing a "friendship" that she doesn't want, is a time you can find looking for a new friend who appreciates you.

Also, chicks dig a man with self respect and dwelling on "This girl." shows a complete lack thereof.

[Deadhank]

This will sound hard, ..just leave her.


Chances are, she'll come back or you'll forget about her. <---I've done this so ..Yeah...

Pretty much this.

Girls at your age (if I got it right, you're 13-14) tend to change friends frequently, even if you guys know eachoter from a long time. Eventually, she may come back, when the nostalgia of childhood hits and she'll want to hang out with you again.

[Jotaux]

I find that to be somewhat creepy when she says she doesn't want to spend time with him. He's thinking that she's a bitch yet wants to get together with her?

He's clearly saying that he is thinking of her as a bitch in order to deal with it, not that he actually thinks she's a bitch. As well you said he was a creep for continuing to contact her when he has said no such thing.

[Deleted]

He's clearly saying that he is thinking of her as a bitch in order to deal with it, not that he actually thinks she's a bitch.

Doesn't make it less appalling.

As well you said he was a creep for continuing to contact her when he has said no such thing.

That he even considers to contact her again, with the hope of spending time together and eventually become her boyfriend is kind of creepy when she doesn't want to spend time with him.

[Auxis]

Not to be rude, but most likely she's getting to that stage of being placed into a teenage caste. Like pocky_rin said, the school might have run a rumor mill, and she doesn't want to hang out with a "sick kid"

[Tauton]

Yes, you did. And while you may have had the best of intentions, to anyone who is not you, that is scary as hell.
Edit: Let me explain why:
It's methodical planning at work. People generally experience 'love' as an honest emotion; if it happens, it happens. People generally start relationships by just letting it happen. Relationships (that work) are nearly never planned (unless you're from one of those cultures where your mum and her mum will barter for the best price for you/her, of course; whole different ballgame there).

The methodical way of you trying to get into her personal life, 'sample' her through friendship, and plan to move closer still and 'take' her into a relationship is predatory. Now; there's nothing wrong with being predatory per sé, but 'predatory' and 'romance' simply do not go together. Somewhere, someone is getting hurt. In this case, you act as if she is an object to be manipulated, and, eventually, to be conquered/caught. Without regard, I might add, for how she feels or thinks in the situation (though I suppose adding it was unnecessary because I've already mentioned the 'objectification' thing).

She tells you she doesn't want to hang out with you any longer. The reason is two-fold: She says you act strangely and say strange things (your behaviour is frightening), and she needs time for other people as well (you are suffocating her).

I do mainly agree with what you are saying, but.. Consider when you go on a date with someone, one of you decided to say about going on a date, or one of you decided to say 'hey' in the bar, or whatever. It's very, very rare that you just literally bump into someone and hit it off, normally someone decides to be in the right place, or say the right thing to initiate the start of a potential relationship.

Near enough every relationship starts out with seeing if you can be friends/compatible, it's called dating - I don't see how what he's doing is predatory. Sure, if he's sitting on a park bench, watching the girl every day she goes past trying to figure out how to say 'hey' to her and, oh look, he has found out she buys a certain coffee, so he'll do the same... that's a bit creepy, but still not predatory.

p.s. almost every chick flick is 'predatory' by your standards because either the guy or the girl 'makes' the connection happen.


But on topic - she doesn't like you 'that way'. You can either find out why and feel bad (because in all honesty it'll be something stupid that you won't be able to change) or find one of the other hundreds or even thousands of girls your age in your area to be 'you' around. Don't fret, you are VERY young and hormones (male and female) are changing you all at such an alarming rate that next year this girl might be totally smitten with you...

Enjoy your teens, never spend time wondering 'why why why?'.

[Deleted]

You are young OP. You got so much time to fix your beta-issues. Next her, accept who you are, develop your character, socialise with peers, read certain kind of literature (!!!), bang many chicks. This will fix your oneitis in the long-run.
You probably think in totally different categories now, I assume. Your world is probably whateverthisgirlsnameis-centric and all you can think of is whether you make that phone call or not (only to tell her some stuff that you think will charm her but irl will creep the hell out of her). Don't be that guy. Love hurts. Aqquire pick-up skills, next her, bang her sister (optional) in some years instead to get some revenge.

[ponth]

lol, were you born in your late 30s? Be yourself and find your true love, did you go to public highschool? Why wouldn't he want to lose weight? Teenage girls are superficial, why do you think the dumb as a rock jocks have a higher success with the "hot, popular girls" than the kid who likes to read and play wow all the time. OP sounds a bit on the weird side, add that with not being "attractive" and this girl probably doesn't want to hurt her social standing by hanging out with a weirdo.

What's wrong with being yourself, and seeking out real relationships instead of going after someone who will look at you just as a symbol of status?
You believe in changing yourself so other people will like you? That this kid should become a part of the superficial game of narcissism? If that's what he wants, fine.
I'm saying, don't chase after people who don't like you for who you are.

[Blindfire]

This may sound mean but girls that age are all about self image, and they are overly concerned the people they are associated with could be detrimental as they strive for popularity. Now take this with a grain of salt but no decent looking girl wants to hang out with the fat kid at that age, have some self discipline and start exercising, its shallow and sad but its true, the better you look the more attention you'll get, its just the world we live in. No one cares how smart you are in middle/high school

[iperson]

1st grade problems...

[Deleted]

Is there any other solution than to leave her alone? I mean... what did you expect people to say? I really don't know what other options you'd have.

[The Ogdru Jahad]

As someone who has been rejected before, as have most people... just move on, no means no. Don't push it. If you push it, you lose ANY chance. If you let her be, maybe she'll warm up again and who knows. Otherwise, move on as said before!

[GoldNSilence]

Leave her alone and don't become a creepy stalker.

[Mukki]

He isn't in the UK, he said 9th grade meaning he is just starting highschool, I would put his age at 12-13. He is in the US.

Closer to 14-15. 12-13 is more like 7th grade.

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You have lived in this world for 30 years and this is your "wisdom"? I will surprise you now: my boyfriend looks like a pandaren and I would never trade him for a bloodelf. Even with same personality. Chubby men are much more cuddly than some full-of-steroids gym apes.

You realize you're in the vast minority, right?

However, I will say that working out to get women is massively stupid. You should be working out for yourself. My advice would be to forget about picking up women and just be the best person you can be.

[OzoAndIndi]

I wold just let it be for now. Maybe the friendship will warm back up, though sometimes people grow apart for one reason or another. Especially if there has been a long absence, like for a reason like yours, or (as I'd experience) were at different schools for a few years before running into each other again later. In the meantime, work on finding some now potential friends.

[kynthrus]

Simply put, she doesn't like you. You're young just move on.

[Immitis]

OKAY heres what you gotta do.

at night sneak into her front yard and put TONS of rocks just everywhere and i mean everywhere. make it look like somethin just brought rock town to this girls yard. then the next day go there dressed as a goron and when she comes out yell "I AM BIGGORON AND I CHALLENGE YOU!"

this is the difficult part, you have to build a sumo ring out of the rocks and both have to dress up in typical sumo clothing.

after throwing the match in a fit of rage throw a flower pot into the sky and say "BOMB FLOWER POWER!"

after it fails to explode roll on the ground and eat the rocks.

after this offer to buy her icecream

become bestest friends forever

[starkey]

My leprechaun tells me to burn things down if nothing goes my way.

[Cthulhu 2020]

I had a friend who pretty much pulled the exact same thing. One day we were friends, the next she was avoiding me and then a couple of days later pulled me aside and said "Hey look I can't hang out with you any more."

I was totally perplexed about what had caused that. I was actually more bothered by thinking about what had happened or what had been said about me, than by her not wanting to hang out any more.

Move on OP, it's not worth obsessing over.