[Balance] T16H BiS List

[lappee]

Have not heard any of that yet, only the squish and hit/exp removal

mm, tried to google abit myself and found out that rings/necks/trinkets dont swap the primary stats in wod apparently

[huth]

I think that part is only for WoD items, anyway. SoO gear seems to largely stay the same outside of spirit/hit/expertise changes.

[xtramuscle]

So which rings will be BIS? Is juggy ring (with useless spirit) still good enough with the yellow socket? Or do we want hit/haste from galakras?

Thinking the mace from shamans will become BIS over the one from garrosh now, and the garrosh belt will remain bis.

Does this mean the shamans neck > sha one?

[Aboubacar]

So which rings will be BIS? Is juggy ring (with useless spirit) still good enough with the yellow socket? Or do we want hit/haste from galakras?

Thinking the mace from shamans will become BIS over the one from garrosh now, and the garrosh belt will remain bis.

Does this mean the shamans neck > sha one?

I apologize in advance for not answering your question, but it truly doesn't matter. Generally in prepatches they freeze logs and nerf the raid for more flexibility when people are adapting to the new systems changes.

I'd just keep an eye out for any neck or ring w/o spriit. Also your stat priorities might change as well as they balance out secondaries
rings
http://wod.wowhead.com/item=105539
http://wod.wowhead.com/item=105465
http://wod.wowhead.com/item=105498
http://wod.wowhead.com/item=105443
weps
http://wod.wowhead.com/item=105649
http://wod.wowhead.com/item=105627
http://wod.wowhead.com/item=105541

just for comparison or w/e but my point stands stat weights changing, no haste bps, no reforging and maybe enchant changes?

[Glurp]

So which rings will be BIS? Is juggy ring (with useless spirit) still good enough with the yellow socket? Or do we want hit/haste from galakras?

Thinking the mace from shamans will become BIS over the one from garrosh now, and the garrosh belt will remain bis.

Does this mean the shamans neck > sha one?

I don't think BiS is relevant for 6.0 at all. Every pre-expanion patch classes are buffed to such levels that content becomes trivial if you have half a brain and ranks are disabled/100% meaningless.

[lappee]

Not sure if we're talking about 6.0 or the extra upgrade patch.

Either way, we have no clue what our stat priorities will be in 6.0 so no1 can say whats "bis" over then.
with 4/4 upgrades, the list is most likely more or less the same with different gemming.

[xtramuscle]

I don't think BiS is relevant for 6.0 at all. Every pre-expanion patch classes are buffed to such levels that content becomes trivial if you have half a brain and ranks are disabled/100% meaningless.

Not really asking for 6.0 im currently asking for 5.4.8 with +8 ilvs spirit is going to be redundant if you have any amp trinket; just looking for the best options. but looking onto 6.0 i wont bother getting HCWF Garrosh mace as shamans one will be better. Geif crit mastery items kkthxbai

[Zareth]

Is there any confirmation on whether SoO items will get the int/agi/str change treatment in 6.0? if so, then one can just take agi/str rings too (if those drop more often than the int ones)

"As we discussed at BlizzCon, we’re accomplishing this by making it so primary stats for a given piece of gear will change based on your current spec, though it’s likely that only new gear added in Warlords will work like this, as it might be impossible to implement this for all existing gear." (Source)

This is the last we've heard about it, I think.

[huth]

They talked specificially about jewelry as well, which was never planned to be affected by this change in the first place.

[Mystikal]

So which rings will be BIS? Is juggy ring (with useless spirit) still good enough with the yellow socket? Or do we want hit/haste from galakras?

Thinking the mace from shamans will become BIS over the one from garrosh now, and the garrosh belt will remain bis.

Does this mean the shamans neck > sha one?

I believe Blizz said they're removing the spirit from the heirloom mace, is your comparison taking that into account?

[lappee]

I believe Blizz said they're removing the spirit from the heirloom mace, is your comparison taking that into account?

He isnt talking about the heirloom one

[xtramuscle]

I believe Blizz said they're removing the spirit from the heirloom mace, is your comparison taking that into account?

as lappe pointed out I was referring to the horned mace of the old ones? aka not he loom.

[Mystikal]

Sorry, totally forgot about the other Garrosh mace. D'oh.

[Miraclous]

Is there any confirmation on whether SoO items will get the int/agi/str change treatment in 6.0? if so, then one can just take agi/str rings too (if those drop more often than the int ones)

I always thought it was just cloth, leather, mail and plate gear that would adjust their primary stat to your spec (also in WoD). Since rings/necks/ ect can also have role specific bonuses like +armor and spirit.

[lappee]

I always thought it was just cloth, leather, mail and plate gear that would adjust their primary stat to your spec (also in WoD). Since rings/necks/ ect can also have role specific bonuses like +armor and spirit.

mm, tried to google abit myself and found out that rings/necks/trinkets dont swap the primary stats in wod apparently

nuff said

[Miraclous]

nuff said

Ah I must have missed that :/

[Lora]

is this list still accurate with the 4/4 upgrades?

[primalfears]

is this list still accurate with the 4/4 upgrades?

read the last pages or two

[xtramuscle]

I don't have HC-WF Bindings yet :'( but is it possible with the extra 1% we'll want the boots from Malk to avoid being WAY over hit cap (until 6.0) ? ...I don't have thoks ring either - neither seem to exist.

[Juvencus]

I'd suppose, in 6.0, the offpiece will change given how we will have both intel and agil pieces to choose from. I would guess http://www.wowhead.com/item=104456 or http://www.wowhead.com/item=104556 with the Spirit and Main stat changes because of the extra gem slot.

Not that it would matter at that point, really :P