Recent Blue Posts
Addressing Children’s Week Issues
Addressing Children’s Week Issues
Blizzard must stop introducing neutral races immediately
Rank the Dragonflight Dungeons (beyond knee-jerk reactions)
New gaming PC doesnt look right
MMO-Champion
Still better then Dragon Soul ending
Recent Forum Posts
-
2013-09-12, 01:31 AM #81Keyboard Turner
- Join Date
- Oct 2011
- Posts
- 9
-
2013-09-12, 01:31 AM #82DeletedThe look between Varian and Thrall tells another story. Varian was expecting to see Thrall as the leader and yet he sees Vol'jin, with Thrall behind him supporting. That pretty much seals the deal.
Originally Posted by Sylreick
-
2013-09-12, 01:31 AM #83Old God
- Join Date
- Jan 2010
- Location
- What
- Posts
- 10,063
So is the Horde Cinematic out too?
Originally Posted by Princess Kenny
-
2013-09-12, 01:32 AM #84Herald of the Titans
- Join Date
- Mar 2011
- Posts
- 2,619
What a boring warchief. Honestly, I know he's been with the horde longer lore wise than anyone else besides cairne/thrall, but honestly. I would've preferred baine or just, even sylvanas, for a more interesting story.
Idk, I can't see this going well honestly for the story. I can't see any good branches for it, lawfully though, its a good choice, interesting wise, its not.
-
2013-09-12, 01:35 AM #85Titan
- Join Date
- Sep 2010
- Location
- Ontario, Canada
- Posts
- 12,899
Gallywix is in the Cinematic aswell
-
2013-09-12, 01:35 AM #86Herald of the Titans
- Join Date
- Nov 2009
- Location
- Massachusetts
- Posts
- 2,732
No, not necessarily, he probably thought Thrall would resume being Warchief, or at least speak for them because of their face to face being interrupted by pandas. There was nothing said that Vol'jin was the Warchief, only that he spoke for them. Unless the horde side video tells differently, we can't assume he is the new one. Originally Posted by Tauror
-
2013-09-12, 01:37 AM #87The Unstoppable Force
- Join Date
- Sep 2009
- Posts
- 20,124
Originally Posted by I make people mad
Yes, Jaina is mad for having her entire city and the civilians bombarded out of existence. WHAT A MONSTER, THAT BITCH. We all know that no one may dislike the Horde in World of Hordecraft! Everyone has to love the greenskins, happy -- happy!
Jaina is a mad bitch that needs to be put down! For the Banshee Queen!
( lol, just pathetic )
-
2013-09-12, 01:37 AM #88Herald of the Titans
- Join Date
- Oct 2011
- Posts
- 2,995
D'aw, boring. I was hoping for more of an interesting choice of warchief. Someone who might have shaken things up a bit.
Not too fond of Jaina basically being a horrible human being and an entirely different character at this stage either.
Still! I thought the idea of sparing Garrosh and bringing him back to Pandaria to stand trial was pretty awesome. It was a neat change from just murdering the big bad and drawing a line under everything. I'm also excited for the idea of peace between the Horde and Alliance. That's going to make things a lot more interesting in the next expansion.
-
2013-09-12, 01:37 AM #89The Patient
- Join Date
- Sep 2011
- Posts
- 348
Well talking to Varian seems to indicate the next major thing the Alliance will do will be taking back Gilneas, and I dont exactly see Vol'jin being ok with all the things Sylvanas does, so he may not even support her. That could be very interesting. Originally Posted by Angarin
But I mainly feel like the next expansion is going to be less about the major factions and more about helping neutral factions fight a greater evil, like with WotLK, so faction leaders probably wont be very important at all.
-
2013-09-12, 01:39 AM #90High Overlord
- Join Date
- Feb 2013
- Posts
- 199
Sorry but Shalamayne will feast on the Banshee Bitches head! xD Originally Posted by Yarathir
-
2013-09-12, 01:40 AM #91Deleted
Jaina is just a mad bitch. She allowed the alliance fleet in theramore destroyng the barrens and campo Taurajo and stilo whine if the horde retaliate?
I'm so disappointed for voljin. He may speak for the horde bit ne doesnt speak for me, lor themar was the only one made to be warchief.
-
2013-09-12, 01:40 AM #92Herald of the Titans
- Join Date
- Nov 2009
- Location
- Massachusetts
- Posts
- 2,732
Good characters need time to grow and change, her city was bombed, Dalaran was betrayed by some blood elves, and some crazy stuff messed with her head. Can't rightly expect a person to forget all that in such a small period of time, and go back all happy and crap. If she's going to change, it would have to take quite a while, with removing Garrosh as a decent first step. Originally Posted by Wondercrab
-
2013-09-12, 01:42 AM #93Banned
- Join Date
- Nov 2012
- Location
- The West Coast of the United States
- Posts
- 1,995
Varian says in a dialogue window afterwards that the Alliance's next objective is the securing of Gilneas and containment of Sylvanas.
http://i.imgur.com/pDNPKjh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/gE98pNA.jpgLast edited by But I Hate You All; 2013-09-12 at 01:45 AM.
-
2013-09-12, 01:42 AM #94Titan
- Join Date
- Jan 2009
- Posts
- 13,143
Yeah, because you know... Originally Posted by lolbubble
She was a so much better character as a generic "We have to work together guys! Let's be friends" character. What a horrible loss we suffered with her change.
Without old Jaina we have no voice of reason working for the greater good....
except for Anduin...
And Velen...
And Malfurion...
And new Varian...
The entire pandaren race..
But seriously. What will we do without old Jaina?
-
2013-09-12, 01:45 AM #95Void Lord
- Join Date
- Jul 2011
- Location
- In some Sanctuaryesque place or a Haven
- Posts
- 44,683
She should of done that awhile ago. She claims she isn't proud of the Purge of Dalaran(She told Kalec that) or rather said she's done things she isn't proud of. Originally Posted by Sylreick
IMO she was the most interesting being who she was not a downward spiral ala Arthas. We've seen that already.
With that said, I wanna know how they're going to pull off this Trial thing.
She actually IS better that way, no matter how dumbing down you try to twist into. And FYI Malfurion hasn't been active AT ALL this expansion or Velen(Sorry bro). Varian actually was pretty assertive in this so...I'd consider your argument null.Yeah, because you know...
She was a so much better character as a generic "We have to work together guys! Let's be friends" character. What a horrible loss we suffered with her change.
Without old Jaina we have no voice of reason working for the greater good....
except for Anduin...
And Velen...
And Malfurion...
And new Varian...
The entire pandaren race..
But seriously. What will we do without old Jaina?#TeamLegion #UnderEarthofAzerothexpansion plz #Arathor4Alliance #TeamNoBlueHorde
Warrior-Magi
-
2013-09-12, 01:46 AM #96The Unstoppable Force
- Join Date
- Sep 2009
- Posts
- 20,124
Originally Posted by Leonheart327
That entire post was sarcasm, to point out the hypocrisy of the majority of Horde fans.
Originally Posted by Hitei
Indeed. I think Horde people are just mad there are actually people willing to destroy them now, instead of Jaina remaining the old passive peace broker who wouldn't flinch even if an orc were to slap her in the face, kick her to the ground and piss on her head. I'm glad she actually did something, but apparently reacting to the destruction of the people she tried to protect by an orc in a humane way means she is 'an insane bitch that requires an execution' for Horde fans. All while their Banshee Queen blightbombs innocent humans to ooze.
Weak.
-
2013-09-12, 01:46 AM #97Warchief
- Join Date
- Oct 2010
- Location
- Searching for the Old Gods
- Posts
- 2,185
I bet she is being manipulated. remember what wrathion said that he practically gave Varian the horde and then he fucked it up? and then he goes on a big rant about preparing us
Chaos! Madness! Like a hug for your brain!¯\(°_o)/¯
Originally Posted by Alpheus
14/14h and finally done Originally Posted by smartazjb0y
-
2013-09-12, 01:48 AM #98Bloodsail Admiral
- Join Date
- Oct 2009
- Posts
- 1,195
Russian cinematic just in case:
Alliance
Horde
Last edited by TOM_RUS; 2013-09-12 at 03:44 AM.
-
2013-09-12, 01:50 AM #99Grunt
- Join Date
- Sep 2013
- Posts
- 11
Don't worry guys, we still haven't seen the Horde ending. It could turn out that Lor'themar is the new Warchief, but Varian only thought it was Vol'jin because Jaina cast an illusion on him.
Last edited by Vicksy; 2013-09-12 at 01:53 AM.
-
2013-09-12, 01:58 AM #100Herald of the Titans
- Join Date
- Oct 2011
- Posts
- 2,995
That's generally the whole problem with Jaina's arc this expansion (and a lot of Blizzard characterisation in general). A switch tends to be flipped and bamf, character X has gone all the way from A to Z in the blink of an eye. I feel like they were probably *trying* to make her feel like a tragic figure this expansion, but when you make an intelligent advocate of peace turn into an ignorant and spiteful racist overnight using the "my whole family were murdered by X" cliché, you have to raise an eyebrow at the competence of the storytelling. Originally Posted by Sylreick
I mean, I do like the idea of the whole role reversal thing if it's executed well. Perhaps if we'd seen Jaina's repeated attempts at peace constantly foiled time and again by Horde warmongers, gradually grinding her down until she became more and more cynical and jaded about her high-minded ideals, then she really could've worked out well as a hero-turned-villain type, or a more morally grey individual.
For an expansion that's been pretty above-par in terms of its storytelling compared to the usual Blizzard fare, I think Jaina has been a real weak link in the whole thing.Last edited by Wondercrab; 2013-09-12 at 02:00 AM.
Reply With Quote
