Thief Gets Shot Trying to Steal Motorbike

[GreatOak]

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=877_1381654222

So this thief holds a guy at gunpoint in the middle of the day around dozens of people and an off duty cop just comes up and shoots him after he takes the bike. Is this a justifiable shooting in your opinion? Is it legal in Brazil? Can anyone who speaks Portuguese give us a short transcript of what happened? There's no blood or anything and it's pretty tame as far as police shootings can go.

Saw these two similar videos

Cops down there give no fucks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHDco_z4bKs#t=26
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7nBgZj2Y7E

[Deleted]

He was still armed and still a threat, the cop did the right thing.

[Soisoisoi]

He had a gun, he was more than likely willing to use it. The biker who it got stole from, the cop or other nearby people could have easily been shot, or even other people in the future from that person. I'd say it's justified imo, if people are willing to go around doing that sort of thing they know the consequences.

[Spl4sh3r]

He was still armed and still a threat, the cop did the right thing.

Didn't watch the news, but he didn't do the right thing. Shouldn't cops warn first then give a warning shot (at least against people who are running away) before they shoot someone? Unless the Thief has already fired against someone.

[Deleted]

Didn't watch the news, but he didn't do the right thing. Shouldn't cops warn first then give a warning shot (at least against people who are running away) before they shoot someone? Unless the Thief has already fired against someone.

Warning shots? You have been watching too many cop shows.

[Sygil]

Cop's actions were justifiable. If you're willing to point a gun at someone, you should expect the same to be done in return.

[Hanto]

Didn't watch the news, but he didn't do the right thing. Shouldn't cops warn first then give a warning shot (at least against people who are running away) before they shoot someone? Unless the Thief has already fired against someone.

Maybe if the suspect already knew the cop was there or something. Then they won't be surprised when the cop pulls their piece on them. Knowing the cop woulda had the surprise element that the thief probably wasn't expecting, the thief might have been more quick to drop his victim when a quick, probably impulse decision was needed after the cop's warning.

A loaded gun being pointed at someone should be handled the same way as if the gun was pointed at the cop himself, and imo he did the right thing.

Warning shots? You have been watching too many cop shows.

Also this too. I never hear about warning shots outside of a TV series or something. In the real world it's "Drop your weapon or we're doing the tango, bro."

[Rend Blackhand]

Didn't watch the news, but he didn't do the right thing. Shouldn't cops warn first then give a warning shot (at least against people who are running away) before they shoot someone? Unless the Thief has already fired against someone.

Aye, a warning shot for a guy on a motorbike. In half a second afterwards he's further away and accelerating, making a following shot much more difficult.

If this is legal in Brazil then so be it, if it isn't legal then the officer should face justice but either way I have no sympathy for the thief.

[Deleted]

Justified.

I don't wish harm upon anyone, but attempting to jack a bike whilst armed and waving it around is grounds to engage.

He was a clear and overt threat to human life, and if i'm not mistaken he lived?

[scadouche]

Here's why he was shot http://puu.sh/4OZke.jpg

See that gun pointed at the officer?

[Deleted]

Didn't watch the news, but he didn't do the right thing. Shouldn't cops warn first then give a warning shot (at least against people who are running away) before they shoot someone? Unless the Thief has already fired against someone.

For the 14526383th time, warning shots are stupid and dangerous.

[ruiz107]

That's not "legal" in Brazil the cop should have told the thief he's under arrest before shooting. However, the camera doesn't show the left hand of the thief, or if he pointed it to the cop... in that case it would be legal.

Anyway, there's a "by the book" behavior and the street behavior, where the cops knows his life is in great danger if he doesn't act like the video.

[zhero]

the thief had his gun pointed at the cop, it happens quick, but it definitely was within the rights of the cop to shoot.

Didn't watch the news, but he didn't do the right thing. Shouldn't cops warn first then give a warning shot (at least against people who are running away) before they shoot someone? Unless the Thief has already fired against someone.

there is no such thing as a warning shot that doesn't put others in danger in a situation like this.

[Deleted]

That's not "legal" in Brazil the cop should have told the thief he's under arrest before shooting. However, the camera doesn't show the left hand of the thief, or if he pointed it to the cop... in that case it would be legal.

Anyway, there's a "by the book" behavior and the street behavior, where the cops knows his life is in great danger if he doesn't act like the video.

Given the stills that are linked, it clearly shows the weapon pointed at the officer.

I'd say it gives him quite clear grounds to engage an individual...

[Cthulhu 2020]

Didn't watch the news, but he didn't do the right thing. Shouldn't cops warn first then give a warning shot (at least against people who are running away) before they shoot someone? Unless the Thief has already fired against someone.

Warning shots are in TV and movies. If you start firing at someone, they're going to think it's for real and start firing back.

[Maruka]

100% justified.

[scadouche]

That's not "legal" in Brazil the cop should have told the thief he's under arrest before shooting. However, the camera doesn't show the left hand of the thief, or if he pointed it to the cop... in that case it would be legal.

Anyway, there's a "by the book" behavior and the street behavior, where the cops knows his life is in great danger if he doesn't act like the video.

Check the screenshot above.

[Deleted]

The thief shouldn't have used a gun if he didn't want to take the risk of being shot.

[Dakhath]

Warning shots aren't a thing. Police are taught that when they fire their service weapon, they shoot to kill.

[AeneasBK]

Brazil. Its a dangerous place.