Good guide again Zab
*Thumbs up*
Good guide again Zab
*Thumbs up*
Thanks Just need to get some more Twitter and Facebook followers and some activity over on my blog and I'll be happy
Nazgrim guide should be out today with a bit of luck, though it depends what time I get home as we are going to be going for the Spoils kill so may run out of time to finish it off.
Keep up the guides Zab, we use them a lot ^^
We will start on this boss next reset...
Nice guide but you could get all of this information off a 4-5min video guide. (There are plenty out there for 3 tank strat.)
But some people like to read text i suppose.
The reason behind the text guide is clearly stated at the start of each of my guides, I personally prefer them and I have no doubt that other people do as well. It also allows you to quickly refer to specific aspects or quote paragraphs to pass on info to others or remind people mid raid.
There aren't any other detailed written Heroic guides out there, so I'm filling a niche. Icy Veins make excellent detailed normal guides (including abilities and health pools as well), but they are always further behind on the Heroic guides.
I can't check out videos whilst I'm at work during the day over my breaks, but I can check out written guides. If you don't need them or have alternate sources of information, then just don't use them! The fact that there are video guides available (some of which I actually even link on the thread) doesn't change the validity of this at all even if it is quicker to watch a video than read a load of text (unless you are a quick reader!).
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Thanks to both Hygeia for making use of my guides and to Psyquest for being on Team Zab
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Thanks to thesmuggler for pointing out the links to my new website were messed up! Fixed them
Just read that the wolves will be up @25% hp, but you meant the cooldowns. I even looked though several logs and couldn't found any revived wolves. :PHeroism will be needed for the final sub 25% burn, but all other DPS cooldowns should be used to get the wolves down quickly; these will be up again by the time the Dark Shaman hit 25% and gain Frenzy.
Love your guides Very detailed and works very nice aswell!
I just have one question regarding my composition. I have a dk tank, pala tank, monk tank. And 2x resto druids + 1x holy pala.
Who goes solo and who goes duo?
I assume the holy paladin will hav to go solo cause of the prisons.
Was thinking to put either the monk tank for his good aoe aggro while moving, or the blood tank for excellent survivability.
What would you suggest?
DK Tank + Pala Tank + 2 Rdruid with Haromm, Monk tank + Holy Pala on Kardris (correct re shields for the Hpala and the Monk is ideal for rolling away from the Foul Geyser).
Don't forget to have your Pala tank spec into Purity and have him set up 2 macros (1 for each Rdruid) so whichever one is at most risk can be HoPu'd, especially important later in the fight when Falling Ash is comng in.
Thanks for the appreciation Check out my site as well, trying to get more followers and hits at the moment and am in the process of a large amount of additional content.... just all quite time consuming! :P
So, I created a Weakaura group for Falling Ash, to aid the "upper group" knowing when it's going to hit. I believe DBM does this as well with it's standard timer, but this is a bit more.... animated.
I may have gone slightly overboard, but I was experimenting with doing something a bit more interesting with Weakauras. Falling Ash was pretty much the test subject, as it's really not that dangerous a mechanic.
It was made in WA1, not 2, so you may have issues importing it. It was surprisingly easy to make, though, aside from learning the initial stuff, probably only took about 15 minutes to make.
If you're unfamiliar with importing WA strings, in game type /wa, click "new" on the left, "import" on the right, and copy paste the text in the code box. Hope it works for anyone that needs 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Main - Spirál - Hunter
Spent 3hours on this last night with a 308k hp wipe. Sad panda.
We three tanked it, with a brewmaster on the wavebinder, Pala and brewmaster on Harromm.
We three healed it with 1 Holy Pala with the main group, 1 resto druid and 1 mistweaver at Harromm.
Otherwise dps was demo lock, fire mage, and ele shaman. Had a rogue in the group who sat up on Harromm and just dps'd all fight long.
I had to go tank instead of healer so was the offspec 548ilvl monky tank at Harromm. He hits surprisingly weak and only when he heros sub 25% does he really hurt, using cd's after 3 stacks is advisable. Otherwise we went up to 12 with some cock-up on taunts at times during his normal phase (5 is advisable on stacks).
We had alot of problems with people dieing to tombs (which is unforgivable), and people getting traped in by the swirling purple mist malaky. Solid fight and good fun. everything up to 25% is relatively straight forward, after that is where shit goes down!
How is the targeting of the Iron Tombs supposed to work anyway?
We tried having me(rogue) go with the Haromm group, on some tries I would never get Tombs, but on other tries me and both healers would get Tombs, messing things up. If he started targeting me with Tombs he would stop if I died and got ressed.
Finally we got tired of this erratic behavior and put me back on Kadris, which is how we got our kill.
Yes, but that doesn't answer the question though, is he really supposed to target people in melee if there are targets at range?
The trouble wasn't really that he was targeting me, it was that he was very inconsistent about it. Sometimes he would just drop 2 Tombs, none of which ever went on me, sometimes he would start dropping 3.
Very detailed guide, good job!
Excellent work - will add this to the guide!
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Thanks!
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Updated the guide with the WA:
Spiral, could I also add it to the guide on my site with you credited?Falling Ash - For Weak Auras, made in V1 by Spiralphoenix:
(works for both groups)
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http://vengeanceking.com/raid-encounter-guides/vengeance-king-boss-guides-siege-of-orgrimmar/korkron-dark-shaman/
Cheers,
Zab
Yeah not a problem. Took much less work than the work you put into the guides.
Main - Spirál - Hunter
<3 awesome, thanks very much man
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...and grats on 9/14HC! You've caught me up We had a 3 second slow wipe on Spoils on Tuesday night better get it this reset!
The strat we are pulling is having a monk tank and a disc priest (dps while healing low dmg) with Kardris, kiting slimes with barrels the whole combat.
The other 8 people (2 tank, 2 healers, 4 caster dps) stay with Haromm top of the hill. We get more dps uptime in the boss (no need to kill slimes).
It seems we can handle the foul stream properly by telling the player with it to strafe away and we have plenty of cds for the falling ash (2 devotion, 2 shamy totems, moonkin and shadow priest offheals)
Do you find any problem in this strat?