War on Christmas 2013 has begun

[theWocky]

I just realized... I haven't really been into a store for shopping since I discovered on-line purchasing several years ago. Things like perfume and jewellery I usually buy for my girlfriend during off-peak times.

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"Christmas" - is that the holiday where the guy comes out of his tomb after being dead for three days... and if he sees his shadow when he rolls back the stone, we're going to get two more weeks of Winter?

[Deleted]

Why is wrong to say there is no god?

Because you cannot possibly hope to prove such a statement.

Yet you seem to base your entire existence in this thread on the statement that God absolutely does exist.

You cannot possibly, hope or no hope, prove that God exists. Yet, you're complaining about gays and abortions, about people not calling Christmas Christmas, and all of it, absolutely all of it, is based on your belief - not factual, scientific evidence, but blind belief - that your God exists.

Why is it that you can go on this rant about your God's birthday being under attack, and about how your God hates gays, and about how your God thinks aborting zygotes is killing babies, when all of it is a straight up statement that God exists, but when someone tells you that no, God does not exist, that's suddenly wrong?

My question then is this: what the hell does it matter what people call a celebration of the birth of a being who does not, nor has never existed? Oh God does exist? Prove it. Else let people call this time of the year whatever the hell they like.

I hate to come back to this thread when I already managed to leave. But oh well, I am a masochist. And a sadist too. Oh, and I think Lucifer is one of the best characters in that silly story about Gods and angels and shit. At least he had the balls to say FU to God.

In before the "/sigh 10chars" -defense.

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this reminds me of the time i let the mother-in-law stay over for the weekend.
never again

[Chinese Bootlickers]

Christmas' War on Tasteful Music begins tomorrow. I am not anti-Christmas. I am anti-Fuckers-using-it-as-an-excuse-to-be-dicks, and anti-Shitty-music-from-1950s.

One of my usual radio stations switches completely to Christmas music at the begging of November until the end of the year and it bothers me like hell.ASDFGHJQWERTY
Also, yay another "War" made up by the right.

[God8010]

I try to disrespect all your religions equally, though I could never hate christmas.

During the year as you fight to pay bills and sell things you never wanted to, I put them in a dark dry and cool cave until this time of year.

Now I sell back your crap on debt you can't afford to make dimes on the dollars.

OP Black Friday videos died when security stepped up. Also watched Black Friday become a thing during my life. It only got people killed when others failed to notice how large the poverty-line population is. Otherwise, who wants to fight for a deal on a sub-standard T.V?

[Kraenen]

this thread just proves how phony and fabricated this 'war on christmas' is. get a life.

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what's the T-word? really wracking my brain and cant think of it: Tree? Tonsils? ...... Turtle?

EDIT: TURKEY! nvm - got it!

ok now im confused.

there are a lot of raids in WoW about the T word. some people say one of them every expansion. "we have to have the T raid for this expansion", like zul aman, zul gurub...i hope you can see what it is now...

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this thread just proves how phony and fabricated this 'war on christmas' is. get a life.

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there are a lot of raids in WoW about the T word. some people say one of them every expansion. "we have to have the T raid for this expansion", like zul aman, zul gurub...i hope you can see what it is now...

taxidermy?

[Kaj392]

Did the orange jacket guy try to divide the people there?

Seems to me somebody he knews got in a fight or something and he tries to get to her (the blonde lady) and pulls somebody off her.

Oh well, title and video don't make any sense together if you ask me.

I kinda expected America to invade another country for the sake of peace...

[Masark]

Few things ;

One; how can anyone, with any degree of certainty say that God or Jesus do or do not exist? I wouldn't dream to be so smug to proclaim either.

Three ; What is the basis for all life? How was the universe started? How was life started, How and why do physics and procreation exist? I'm curious to here your answers and why you seem to think your answers are better than any Christians beliefs.

1. You cannot say with any degree of certainty that I don't have a floating, incorporeal dragon who breathes heatless fire in my garage.

2. The basis for all life that we know of is organic chemistry. How the universe started is an open question. Most plausible explanation for the origin of life is certain chemical reactions occurring by chance in the right conditions over a very long period of time.

[Milchshake]

Naughty or Nice this Year? Celebrate the birth of Jesus with a new Bushmaster AR15!

[Masark]

Naughty or Nice this Year? Celebrate the birth of Jesus with a new Bushmaster AR15!

Of interest, everything in that picture would be classified as a restricted firearm in Canada and the magazines would be classified as prohibited.

Though I believe the shotguns further down the page would be unrestricted firearms, though I don't think the SXP Defender and 870 Express would be legal for hunting.

[Felya]

I called you dense because somehow you have it in your head that I am an advocate for Christmas and it's consumerism. I never once said anything about how awesome it is that Christmas has become a mad dash to buy shit. Go ahead and check my posts, it didn't happen. But for some reason you wish to say that I am. Baffling really.

No, I actually say you ignore the consumerism. I agree, you say anything to avoid it, including insults, scripture, Big Bang, abortion and making shit up. You don't say it's awesome, because as you quoted me "You will even insult, to avoid rationalizing". This is ignoring that I and others have asked you multiple times. Basically, your whole post proves my point that you refuse to address it.

Again, I will reiterate, don't tell people to not say something. Otherwise, you lose the opportunity for them to prove you right. You tell someone they avoid the issue and they will post a thread detailing exactly how they avoid the issue. That's what is great about freedom of speech, it includes freedom to reply.

[Klutzington]

Apparently liberals wishing each other Happy Holidays ruined Christmas.

Which was really a distraction so Wal-Mart etc., could really find a way to punch the Holiday Spirit in the face.

I don't understand what this has to do with being a liberal. Period. Idiot.

[Felya]

I don't understand what this has to do with being a liberal. Period. Idiot.

He's being sarcastic.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

I blame dumb people not liberals.

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"No recording.
"No recording?Alright."

[Adam Jensen]

Apparently liberals wishing each other Happy Holidays ruined Christmas.

Which was really a distraction so Wal-Mart etc., could really find a way to punch the Holiday Spirit in the face.

Yeah, that video is why I don't bother with Black Friday sales.

[Milchshake]

I don't understand what this has to do with being a liberal. Period. Idiot.

For a Happy Holiday Present i'll gift you with some insight into sarcasm and irony.

Bill O'Reilly has for years blamed the decline of Christmas on Liberals. Proof of Christmas's decline? People wishing each other "Happy Holidays" is all the proof Bill O'Reilly needs.
This is sarcasm.

Bill O;Reilly is not self-aware enough to figure out that consumerism and unrestrained capitalism may be source of Christmas's decline. He doesnt even entertain the idea that Consumerism and Free Markets are at odds with core Christian values.
This is irony.

A Bunduru of knowledge for you.

[sourmonkey]

It's just not about one day a year , this is life you have to fight for what you want .
You have to fight that 40hrs to pay those bills , this is bigger than wal mart it's the new American way .

You want freedom ? Fight the bills , fight your neighbor for that job posted on the job board .
If food was given out to only 1 person per day who survived a pit of death for the first few days a few would band together
But eventually hunger kicks in and your natural instinct to survive over rides .

Don't blame wal mart or any other retailer it's human nature to act this way , just some people have easier breaking points

[torment3d]

Yep. If that is you can field the votes. But the frivolous Law suits that are like. "Oh! I see a Cross on Private Land" Take it down!
Or "Oh! 10 Commandments in a Court made by predominately Christians and designed with that motif in mind 200 years before I was a dirty thought! Remove or I'll sue."


Make it a crime to poise lawsuits that waste the Courts time like that. Vexatious litigants deserve jail time. In fact a law that said to every liberal and conservative. "Get over someone's religion if it doesnt match yours. Walk away if you dislike it. The Government doesn't give two damns." would be ideal. Buildings built should be up to the creative license of the builder and also the individual who is paying for it to design. Most of the time it's religion nuetral nowadays and that is fine. My issue is when something built in the past is forced to be changed because Joe Athiest wanted to get attention, or a charity is shut down because some stupid activist group wants to make news.

I am sorry if it means some Christians get pissed that Ak-med Hazibi builds a Mosque next to their great church. Whining like a infant because a 200 year old Pledge features God in it and your a Athiest? Shut up and plug your ears then. Your son or daughter can pretend or be excused if they are so offended.


Or better yet they should get the hell out of the country if they can't pledge allegiance to it. There is such a thing as going through the motions out of respect for the Country you live in, even if you disagree with some of it's policies. But no no, everyone is like "Lets Fundamentally Transform this!" not realizing that most of this stuff came into being because it was realized the alternative was worse.


While we're at it, get over the fact that the USA was built by Christians, stop trying to hide it's history and accept it for what it is. The Courts should be trying criminals, not making thin skinned nimrods with a theological axe to grind feel better. The biggest problem with America is that we try to make the idiots feel better and are apologetic, when we should be saying. "Suck it up. You don't get everything you want in life snowflake."

On the first point in bold, the pledge of allegiance was NOT WRITTEN WITH "under God" in it. It was added in 1954 by Congress after the Knights of Columbus (a catholic fraternal organization, largest one in the US actually...) added it to their own pledge. President Eisenhower was a very recently converted presbyterian and enthusiastically proclaimed that "From this day forward, the millions of our school children will daily proclaim in every city and town, every village and rural school house, the dedication of our nation and our people to the Almighty".

To the second bold point, our founding fathers were by and large DEISTS. This country was founded specifically to get away from the tyranny of religious theocracy. The US constitution is the only constitution in the world to prohibit religion from being taken into account in government matters and it's a DAMN GOOD THING, too... and if YOU don't want to uphold the values of our founding fathers then YOU, SIR, CAN GET THE FUCK OUT OF OUR COUNTRY. I'm so sick of hearing this redneck bullshit. Learn something about history before you go proclaiming whatever the fuck you want.