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    Why doesn't Bronze dragonflight just seal off the portal?

    From what I understood Garrosh gets help from a Bronze dragon to open a timeway to the past through the Dark Portal.

    Why doesn't the rest of the Bronze and Nozdormu just shut it off?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlizzardApologist View Post
    From what I understood Garrosh gets help from a Bronze dragon to open a timeway to the past through the Dark Portal.

    Why doesn't the rest of the Bronze and Nozdormu just shut it off?
    aspects dont have much power anymore, plus if they did, no xpack

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    Because they lost their powers. Meanwhile we empowered Kairoz's hourglass a few weeks in a row...

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    If some random Bronze dragon had a trick up his sleeve wouldn't Nozdormu have at least one too? He's been doing this for ages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aladya View Post
    Because they lost their powers. Meanwhile we empowered Kairoz's hourglass a few weeks in a row...
    This and the fact that the rift is permanent.

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    For the same reason that Superman can lose to Batman and that Agent 47 can take out an entire hitsquad without being spotted but during the cutscenes he'll see an extremely obvious trap and walk right in on it and nearly die.

    You can't justify a case of "plot-induced stupid."
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    "Statue casts Soothing Mist at a nearby ally for toddler healing."

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    Bronze Dragons don't have that power anymore.

    Kairoz is using thousands of Epoch stones to power his and Garrosh's journey.

    We don't even know if its possible for regular Bronze dragons (Pre-power loss) to jump worlds with their time travel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlizzardApologist View Post
    From what I understood Garrosh gets help from a Bronze dragon to open a timeway to the past through the Dark Portal.

    Why doesn't the rest of the Bronze and Nozdormu just shut it off?
    Because plot. (And plot badly, at that.)
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    As others said the bronze are not that powerful anymore and Kairoz has most likely not only the Hourglass, but the two vials with water of eternity, the ones we took from Kael and Vashj.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ringpriest View Post
    Because plot. (And plot badly, at that.)
    It's fine plot. Our world is vulnerable so there's nothing wrong with that so quit your griping.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeluron Lightsong View Post
    It's fine plot. Our world is vulnerable so there's nothing wrong with that so quit your griping.
    It's rocket-propelled shark-jumpingly bad plot. (And that's aside from fighting the Dark/Fel/True/Iron/Adjective Horde, again.) So quit your knee-jerk defense of transparently bad writing.
    "In today’s America, conservatives who actually want to conserve are as rare as liberals who actually want to liberate. The once-significant language of an earlier era has had the meaning sucked right out of it, the better to serve as camouflage for a kleptocratic feeding frenzy in which both establishment parties participate with equal abandon" (Taking a break from the criminal, incompetent liars at the NSA, to bring you the above political observation, from The Archdruid Report.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Combatbulter View Post
    As others said the bronze are not that powerful anymore and Kairoz has most likely not only the Hourglass, but the two vials with water of eternity, the ones we took from Kael and Vashj.
    Where did he get those?

    And I still find it iffy that the entire Bronze dragonflight can't do anything about it, even combined with the Blue. They lost their immortality, not their powers, or so I thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlizzardApologist View Post
    Where did he get those?
    back in TBC, there was an attunement quest to be able to enter Mount Hyjal which required you to get 2 vials containing parts of the well of eternity from Kaelthas and Vashj

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    Quote Originally Posted by ringpriest View Post
    It's rocket-propelled shark-jumpingly bad plot. (And that's aside from fighting the Dark/Fel/True/Iron/Adjective Horde, again.) So quit your knee-jerk defense of transparently bad writing.
    The Bronze lost their time powers last expansion. Kairoz has collected artifacts from players for months that contain the essence of time itself to power an artifact that can allow one to move between timelines. He's going to use it to move Garrosh back in time and create an alternate timeline, and the Bronze can't stop it because they lost their powers.

    What exactly is wrong with that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlizzardApologist View Post
    Where did he get those?

    And I still find it iffy that the entire Bronze dragonflight can't do anything about it, even combined with the Blue. They lost their immortality, not their powers, or so I thought.
    Each flight lost a majority of their powers as well. That's why Kairoz needed you to collect the Epoch Stones to even VIEW the future, something which would have been no problem whatsoever for the Bronze before Dragon Soul. The only one who still has his power is Wrathion, because he wasn't involved in the final defeat of Deathwing.

    "Nozdormu states resolutely that the timeways are no longer the bronze dragonflight's concern, beyond his current ability to control, and thus fall now to the responsibility of the mortal races to protect." - From the Dawn of the Aspects novel.

    The Aspects retain some of their power, but no more than a normal mortal would. Basically they can't do any more time magic than say, the Alter Time that a mage would use, although maybe they could rewind a couple hours due to greater mastery

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    Quote Originally Posted by SinAscendant View Post
    The Bronze lost their time powers last expansion. Kairoz has collected artifacts from players for months that contain the essence of time itself to power an artifact that can allow one to move between timelines. He's going to use it to move Garrosh back in time and create an alternate timeline, and the Bronze can't stop it because they lost their powers.

    What exactly is wrong with that?

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    Each flight lost a majority of their powers as well. That's why Kairoz needed you to collect the Epoch Stones to even VIEW the future, something which would have been no problem whatsoever for the Bronze before Dragon Soul. The only one who still has his power is Wrathion, because he wasn't involved in the final defeat of Deathwing.

    "Nozdormu states resolutely that the timeways are no longer the bronze dragonflight's concern, beyond his current ability to control, and thus fall now to the responsibility of the mortal races to protect." - From the Dawn of the Aspects novel.

    The Aspects retain some of their power, but no more than a normal mortal would. Basically they can't do any more time magic than say, the Alter Time that a mage would use, although maybe they could rewind a couple hours due to greater mastery

    Wrathion is no more or less powerful than any direct lineage drake of his age. The aspects are still more powerful than him and he only has what trinkets we've provided him. The aspects only lost their titan given power and not all of it. The bronze dragons are being used in Garry's trial to provide evidence.

    Also stop condemning Kairoz as if he's a villain. Him being a villain has never been confirmed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by purebalance View Post
    Also stop condemning Kairoz as if he's a villain. Him being a villain has never been confirmed.
    That fact that he choose the side of Garrosh makes him a villain (or at least a traitor).

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    Because we helped Kairoz do it when he wouldn't have been able to do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SinAscendant View Post
    What exactly is wrong with that?
    Well, bronze dragonflight from another dimension (Great Dark Beyond - 2) didn't loose their powers, so they could seal it from other side.

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    Stop saying that they dont have power. They have power to open portal to the past but dont have power to seal 1 portal? It is just another glitch in blizzard wow lore. Time traveling expansion is just really dangerous for lore to acctualy make sense.

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    Knowing, that they wanted us to see the warlords in any way and that they thought of a lot of ways how to do it (they mentioned that first they planned to let garrosh simply resurrect them with unholy necropowas!)... Yeah this is the weakest point of the whole plot

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