Putin puts troops in western Russia on alert in drill 1.1

[Jackmoves]

It's not like all of Europe gets it's gas from Russia, the UK and France get almost nothing from Russia.

According to The Energy Agency here, we get 0 gas from Russia. The maps I've seen in international media says we got 100% of it from Russia though. lol
See...


While this... the swedish energy agency says
http://www.energimyndigheten.se/en/

Hittills har all naturgas som använts i Sverige kommit via naturgasledning från Danmark och Norge.

FAQ - Frågor om naturgas
Hur stor del av den svenska energiförsörjningen består av naturgas?
I de 33 kommuner där naturgasen redan finns utgör den cirka 20 procent av energiförbrukningen. Det motsvarar ungefär tre procent (cirka 14 TWh) av den totala energiförsörjningen i Sverige. Naturgasen har cirka 41 000 kunder här, av vilka de största är stora industrier och kraftvärmeverk.

Varifrån kommer naturgasen som används i Sverige?
Gasen som används på västkusten (där det finns ett gasnät) kommer för närvarande från den danska delen av Nordsjön och transiteras via det danska naturgasnätet till Sverige. Alla ledningar är förlagda under mark eller på havsbotten. På ostkusten finns idag AGAs gasterminal för flytande naturgas (LNG) som fraktas dit med specialbyggda tankerskepp från norska gasfyndigheter.

In short that says that all the gas comes from Denmark and Norway, that it's an energy source in 33 municipalities(we got 290) and that it makes up around 3% of our energy consumption. ;P

They are building a new LNG terminal here where I live now, it will be able to handle 20 000 cubic metres initially, but can be expanded. It's planed to be finished next year.

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Interesting, news article claims that "КиберБеркут" hacker group got mail of Colonel of Ukrainian military forces that hundreds of Ukrainian soldiers desert and that Rebels claim military equipment (this picture , second paragraph, mine rough translation: "during the attack unknown forces on 1282 Center providing armored vehicles (number of military unit and its location (Artyemovsk, Donetskaya oblast)) lost:
T-64 tanks -14 units.
IFV - 12 units
SAU2S1 "Гвоздика" - 7 units \
MLRS BM-21 "Grad" 9 units
Mortars 82mm 10 units")

there is an article in Russian http://lifenews.ru/news/137374
actual source of hacking group

That's almost nothing. Look at this:


Glory to Ukraine!

That picture is wrong. Slovakia always takes more than Czech Republic.
In 2007 it was:
-Slovakia 98%
-Czech Republic 77.6%

And in 2012 (from other source) it was:
-Slovakia 83%
-Czech Republic 57%

No matter what year, source you take, it's always like that.

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That's almost nothing. Look at this:


Glory to Ukraine!



That picture is wrong. Slovakia always takes more than Czech Republic.
In 2007 it was:
-Slovakia 98%
-Czech Republic 77.6%

And in 2012 (from other source) it was:
-Slovakia 83%
-Czech Republic 57%

No matter what year, source you take, it's always like that.

What is that piece of paper? What does it say?

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What is that piece of paper? What does it say?

Ukrainian losses:
-KIA: 1600
-WIA: 4723
-35 tanks, etc

Militia losses:
-KIA: 48
-WIA: 64

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Ukrainian losses:
-KIA: 1600
-WIA: 4723
-35 tanks, etc

Militia losses:
-KIA: 48
-WIA: 64

Uh... ouch.

[Kellhound]

Ukrainian losses:
-KIA: 1600
-WIA: 4723
-35 tanks, etc

Militia losses:
-KIA: 48
-WIA: 64

Seems a bit off. As believable as one claiming the reverse I think.

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Seems a bit off. As believable as one claiming the reverse I think.

Yeah, I have a hard time believing these statistics. I can't look at the paper... maybe it's my work laptop that can't see them, but then they'd have to be from Facebook/a blog site/a porn site.

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Seems a bit off. As believable as one claiming the reverse I think.

Might be a bit off? Maybe. But they need to "recruit" constantly.
Watch this video. It's the third major one:


Now, you see, that Ukrainians don't want to fight and die for Kiev. It's not their war and of course they know the truth about soldiers dying, that's why they're so unwilling to send their sons to fight.

[Kellhound]

Might be a bit off? Maybe. But they need to "recruit" constantly.
Watch this video. It's the third major one:


Now, you see, that Ukrainians don't want to fight and die for Kiev. It's not their war and of course they know the truth about soldiers dying, that's why they're so unwilling to send their sons to fight.

Parents upset over sons being called up to go to war is as old as war itself. Death is a normal outcome of it. It is a natural issue with conscripted forces, one of the main reasons the US Armed Forces never want to stoop to it again. Nor am I saying the Ukrainian casualties are incorrect, it is the rebel count I find totally disbelievable.

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Parents upset over sons being called up to go to war is as old as war itself. Death is a normal outcome of it. It is a natural issue with conscripted forces, one of the main reasons the US Armed Forces never want to stoop to it again. Nor am I saying the Ukrainian casualties are incorrect, it is the rebel count I find totally disbelievable.

Of course, if you're willing to die for it. Because they aren't, it's not their war.

And of course, I suspect that number of casualties for separatists is higher, but don't forget that these numbers might be only confirmed KIA/WIA. And it's from July 9-15.

[Kellhound]

Of course, if you're willing to die for it. Because they aren't, it's not their war.

And of course, I suspect that number of casualties for separatists is higher, but don't forget that these numbers might be only confirmed KIA/WIA. And it's from July 9-15.

Few wars are "everyone's" war....

Those numbers are in line with the numbers for the Gulf War, not likely to hold true at all. The rebels have none of the advantages the US had against Iraq that led to such skewed numbers. Both sides have likely suffered similar KIA and WIA (with the rebels fairing better just because they are defending), though I would not be surprised to see rebel KIA to WIA ratio higher than Ukraine's (based on the assumption Ukraine can provide slightly better medical care, though that is not a given).

[Shalcker]

Few wars are "everyone's" war....

Those numbers are in line with the numbers for the Gulf War, not likely to hold true at all. The rebels have none of the advantages the US had against Iraq that led to such skewed numbers. Both sides have likely suffered similar KIA and WIA (with the rebels fairing better just because they are defending), though I would not be surprised to see rebel KIA to WIA ratio higher than Ukraine's (based on the assumption Ukraine can provide slightly better medical care, though that is not a given).

Ukrainians are attacking with indiscriminate shelling of civilian areas - that creates big losses to affected properties but minimal damage to rebel forces. They had no successful infantry takeovers of cities or villages that were not previously abandoned by rebels.

Rebels shell and bombard army encampments as well as ambush military columns, withdrawing back into forests after quick attacks.

Even though numbers look a bit skewed toward rebel side they are far from being impossible.

[Puupi]

http://euromaidanpress.com/2014/07/2...-fled-donetsk/

Source is Euromaidan, but still...

Strelkov and Bezler have ran away.

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http://euromaidanpress.com/2014/07/2...-fled-donetsk/

Source is Euromaidan, but still...

Strelkov and Bezler have ran away.

Why would you link or even read such thing?

[Shalcker]

I think they post "rebel leaders run away" every week... Bezler never resided in Donetsk too, he usually operated in Gorlovka which is still marked as rebel-held on their map.

[Puupi]

Why would you link or even read such thing?

Why not? /10adasdas

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http://euromaidanpress.com/2014/07/2...-fled-donetsk/

Source is Euromaidan, but still...

Strelkov and Bezler have ran away.

Antratsit/Torez is in the hands of separatists and there's a fighting going on in Debaltsevo (Kiev reported that they have taken over Debaltsevo, which is just another lie, they just entered the city with the help of artillery and "heroically" died).

[Puupi]

Antratsit/Torez is in the hands of separatists and there's a fighting going on in Debaltsevo (Kiev reported that they have taken over Debaltsevo, which is just another lie, they just entered the city with the help of artillery and "heroically" died).

And your source for this is?

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And your source for this is?

https://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/1697123.html

[Puupi]

https://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/1697123.html

holy shit that looks SO legit.

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http://www.taloussanomat.fi/porssi/2014/07/28/putinin-venajalle-tulossa-37-miljardin-lasku-hollannista/201410424/170

Seems like Russia needs to pay 37 billion euros for the Jukos case.