Alpha testers come here ! (Priest discussion)

[Floopa]

let disc rot for this expansion. holy deserves it's time in the spot light.

you can cast divine star on the move - holy got buffed

[Deleted]

Long live Holy Nova spam and relying on Saving Grace!!! So so so disappointed in seeing AMR go. I had such hopes for having high spirit vs active regeneration play styles.

As for the summation of the Discipline changes, either this is a mid build problem thingy or Discipline is getting a knee jerk redesign and nerf.

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let disc rot for this expansion. holy deserves it's time in the spot light.

you can cast divine star on the move - holy got buffed

Excellent game design(!)

No spec should "rot".

[deviantcultist]

Has anyone else noticed that all passives related to active heals have been removed? Does this mean that Disc is finally getting a pure Dps/Atonement approach? Such good news.

[Lundmark]

Risk of making the feel of the playstyle dull... with low crit no aegis... PoH will hit like a wet noodle for Disc... Basically Disc will be Holy without their ticking mastery :/

[Deleted]

Good, Spirit Shell was a terrible idea the moment it was introduced I was like that is going to be UP or OP, no way to balance it. The KJC of Discipline.

[Therougetitan]

Spirit Shell has been removed.
Strength of Soul has been removed.
Train of Thought has been removed.
Inner Focus has been removed.

Next level changes going on here.

World of Warcraft: Rise of the Holy Priests

Balance has been restored.

[h3lladvocate]

I know it's alpha, but I no longer want to play Holy/Disc after this crap... barely had any throughput boosts to begin with, and now BT, ToT, IF, SS all gone... so what, we have AA and PI, which the latter kinda blows... At least Holy is basically the same, but still...

[Floopa]

I know it's alpha, but I no longer want to play Holy/Disc after this crap... barely had any throughput boosts to begin with, and now BT, ToT, IF, SS all gone... so what, we have AA and PI, which the latter kinda blows... At least Holy is basically the same, but still...

absorbs are still strong.

if anyone thought disc was gonna keep all it's toys then they haven't been paying attention

[derevka]

Just reinforces the "Disc at Lower iLvl is weak" problem they have given the innately lower crit we'll see. (even with the 5% crit sources passive)

Though, I do wonder if we'll see the current Crit/AA set bonus as a baseline ability--- it wouldn't be the first time we saw a Tier ability inspire.

[Dracodraco]

As long as the concept of absorbs sticks, there will be a spot for disc priests in high end progression raids, if for nothing else, to boost the EHP of the raid against hard hitting mechanics.

[Deleted]

absorbs are still strong.

if anyone thought disc was gonna keep all it's toys then they haven't been paying attention

There is a massive difference between losing some aspects that defined a class and having the majority of them taken away. With Atonement reduced to something you use rarely, Spirit Shell going and some of the fun little tweaks that more experienced players could try and manipulate to improve their healing (IF, ToT, BT, Rapture...) all going there isn't much of what made the specialisation fun, appealing and, crucially, different left.

Absorbs lose potency as player health pools become more difficult to fill. Plus, you could have the most awesomely overpowered absorbs available but if what defines the spec for players is taken away, it kills interest. Which, isn't good in my opinion. Feeling and character connection is apparently important - we see that with the care Blizzard are taking with models. Unfortunately, that doesn't seem to actually translate over to modes of playing.

I'll hope that with Spirit Shell et al. going we'll see more of a focus returned to Atonement as a filler.

As long as the concept of absorbs sticks, there will be a spot for disc priests in high end progression raids, if for nothing else, to boost the EHP of the raid against hard hitting mechanics.

Works if the need for EHP is more limited to a select number of players that can be covered with the guaranteed shields from Clarity and PW:S. So, tank healing niche?

[derevka]

My take away, until we see more changes obviously, is CRIT CRIT CRIT GEAR....

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My take away, until we see more changes obviously, is CRIT CRIT CRIT GEAR....

Meet the new boss - same as the old boss!

[Dracodraco]

Works if the need for EHP is more limited to a select number of players that can be covered with the guaranteed shields from Clarity and PW:S. So, tank healing niche?

Tons of boss abilities that benefitted greatly from targetted absorbs. Garajal debuffs (3 people taking more dmg than anyone else), huddle on sha (5 people targetted), Frostbite (if healing through it), Matter swap (almost a neccessity on progress), all sorts of stuff like that which hits 1 or a few players very hard and can be reacted to. Considering the healing model they are painting, we are likely to see a lot more of that sort of mechanics (let the raid hoover at around 60-70% while trying to keep it up, 3-4 people get targetted by heavy-hitting debuff, so have to keep them up with heavy spells while healing the raid with whatever is leftover. Think Penetrating cold on Anub).

[Deleted]

True, though how many bosses in a tier have those mechanics? Two, or perhaps three (note, I haven't counted and that is just a total guess)? Guess we'll be seeing more like that!

Will be a shame if Spirt Shell goes as the idea of having to set it up prior to the damage was nice and really played on the idea of pro-active healing.

[Dracodraco]

True, though how many bosses in a tier have those mechanics? Two, or perhaps three? Guess we'll be seeing more like that!

As said, I think we will see more of that kind of damage patterns yes =P.

[Deleted]

Less about Spirit Shell and absorbs but Binding Heal being Holy only now seems... weird.

[Lundmark]

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I feel bad for Druids (no more stacking Lifebloom, losing Barkskin aside from Guardian) and Shaman as well. Seems as though the new design ethos for WoD is to get rid of all the little bits and pieces that made a class feel unique and different.

Relevant:

Innervate has been removed (again).

[BobAwesome]

Mind Blast cooldown is reduced by haste! :3