How much validity? WOW to console...

[Shampro]

It can happen, by effectively reworking the game almost from scratch and not beeing a tab target MMO, which falls under the same category. Not seeing it.

Also good luck selling a 10 year old title to console peeps, without like I said, basicly makeing WoW2 with unreal engine or some shit.

[LeperHerring]

And, it's true, they would be eaten alive worse than keyboard turners on PvP realms, forget about doing anything competitive. You shouldn't mix console players and PC players on something with fewer controls, like an FPS, much less the complexity and often timing critical nature of an MMO.

In top level PvP or mythic raiding console players most likely couldn't compete (unless Blizzard did something silly like scaled up their damage). However, that's a small part of the game. Even today I bet you could quite comfortably do LFR on a console controller, with just the "core abilities" that they now list in a separate tab (I bet that's for consoles) and tab targeting. Couple that with the pruning and dumbing down they're doing for WoD, and you have a game where 90% of the content can be comfortably done on a console. They did it successfully with D3, which at it's core is very similar to WoW.

[Araxie]

Stop making these threads. It's never going to happen. Besides it's not even worth it. Someone who plays primarily on a console will most likely have no interest in wow. Also, no one who plays wow on a pc would stop and go play on a console.

Agreed 100% on this. It's not happening, and the fact that someone made an article on that is just dumb.

[HoopyFrood]

while im pretty sure its not going to happen anytime in the near future i think its pretty asinine to claim that it will NEVER happen. if blizzard stands to make a huge profit from porting it over and not affecting its pc version they'll do it. again, i dont think, if it happens, it will for a long time however

Not flaming you whatsoever, but I do not see any potential for profit in a console venture for WoW. It may sound ridiculous but a long time ago I told my friends I would play WoW if they put it on Xbox, but I was much, MUCH dumber back then than I am now.

Reason other than the obligatory "Game is old, port is pointless":

If Blizzard ever considered Console versions they would have laid the necessary infrastructure to support it, i.e. partnerships with Sony/MS to share servers, Keyboard and Mouse peripherals for consoles, addon support structure, etc. Now granted many say that WoW would have to run off the stock controller to sell and I say bullshit. Final Fantasy 11, although a failure required PS2 owners to buy the Hard drive with the game, and people did.

Here's the problem though, what happened to mouse and keyboard support for last couple generations for consoles, and how the hell will the profits from subs be distributed? Blizzard is a powerhouse in it's own right and I don't think they would sacrifice quality and invest that type of scratch for a potential profit.

TL;DR-It's too late for a console version due to Sony/MS providing their own online service, and fucking off Keyboard/Mouse peripherals.

[LeperHerring]

If Blizzard ever considered Console versions they would have laid the necessary infrastructure to support it, i.e. partnerships with Sony/MS to share servers, Keyboard and Mouse peripherals for consoles, addon support structure, etc. Now granted many say that WoW would have to run off the stock controller to sell and I say bullshit. Final Fantasy 11, although a failure required PS2 owners to buy the Hard drive with the game, and people did.

How do you know they're not building that infrastructure and partnerships behind the scenes? D3 runs well with a controller, and the difference between D3 and dumbed down WoW is what exactly? Slightly more freedom in movement and camera positioning?

[Zoaric]

How do you know they're not building that infrastructure and partnerships behind the scenes? D3 runs well with a controller, and the difference between D3 and dumbed down WoW is what exactly? Slightly more freedom in movement and camera positioning?

And targeting, interaction, add-ons (that's a big one,) spell placement, macros, those
extra spell buttons that aren't a part of one's spell book- like the Call Reinforcements
from the Garrison Barracks or the ones given by special items on Timeless Isle... to
name a few.

Not saying it couldn't be done though.

[Deleted]

If they make a joy pad with twice as much buttons, it would still not work fow wow.

Im currently playing Final Fantasy Realm Reborn on PS4 with PS4 controller with over 25 hotkeys.

Yes, MMO's do work on consoles as Final Fantasy has proven.

EDIT: Honestly, I dont think people have any idea how good Final Fantasy runs on Playstation. I actually believe WoW would run better duo to its different graphics.

If you setup your PS4 controller properly (and trust me, there are thousands of options to hotkey absolutly anything, from mounts to spells to macro's) its plays almost as good as keyboard+mouse combo.

I do however agree that keyboard+mouse will always be the better option for MMO's but its perfectly fine with game pad

[LeperHerring]

And targeting, interaction, add-ons (that's a big one,) spell placement, macros, those
extra spell buttons that aren't a part of one's spell book- like the Call Reinforcements
from the Garrison Barracks or the ones given by special items on Timeless Isle... to
name a few.

Targeting is just tab, the rest is getting solved by the dumbing down and ability pruning they're doing. You probably won't be doing top level arena against PC or raiding mythic with PC players, but I see no reason why you couldn't do everything else on a console. Porting the engine is probably already done (D3 is most likely just a modified WoW engine).

Another thing that would drive console is that the WoW movie is coming out soonish. It's going to give WoW a lot of mass market visibility, and many people are going to want to play the game. It would be really bad business to tell all the console gamers "sorry, you need a PC". I don't think the ATVI shareholders would be happy about that.

[HoopyFrood]

How do you know they're not building that infrastructure and partnerships behind the scenes? D3 runs well with a controller, and the difference between D3 and dumbed down WoW is what exactly? Slightly more freedom in movement and camera positioning?

Well put, but we could also say the same about Starcraft and Warcraft RTS (Except N64 SC, but FUCK THAT). My answer to that is WoW, though very hype back then was still a major investment for Blizzard. The technical challenges of building the PC version so that it delivered was one thing, but if it were meant to be we would have seen console WoW much sooner. Controller layout aside, just the sub part and "Who controls what" aspect is daunting.

Dr. Ian Malcom-"...but your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could that they didn't stop to think if they should."

[Zoaric]

Targeting is just tab, the rest is getting solved by the dumbing down and ability pruning they're doing. You probably won't be doing top level arena against PC or raiding mythic with PC players, but I see no reason why you couldn't do everything else on a console. Porting the engine is probably already done (D3 is most likely just a modified WoW engine).

Another thing that would drive console is that the WoW movie is coming out soonish. It's going to give WoW a lot of mass market visibility, and many people are going to want to play the game. It would be really bad business to tell all the console gamers "sorry, you need a PC".

There's really not a whole lot of 'dumbing down' going on, so much as reworking and
simplifying. Fel, many of the cut affects are being baked into other spells.
And how does any of that solve the add-ons issue?

The two communities would have to be split, as the PC crowd would often simply be far
advantaged over the console players. Splitting the playerbase for an MMO isn't a good
idea at all.

Also, how is it bad business? It's a computer game, and it even runs on Macs; it's no
different than a console exclusive game. Most people's hunk of junk laptops these days
could even run WoW.

[LeperHerring]

There's really not a whole lot of 'dumbing down' going on, so much as reworking and
simplifying. Fel, many of the cut affects are being baked into other spells.
And how does any of that solve the add-ons issue?

Call it whatever you want, but their aim is clearly to have a small set of core abilities per class/spec which lets you play 90% effectively (take a look at the core abilities tab). And there is no addon issue. Console will have its own optimized UI the same way it will have it's own optimized controls. Most likely there won't be addons and there won't be a need for them on the console.

The two communities would have to be split, as the PC crowd would often simply be far
advantaged over the console players. Splitting the playerbase for an MMO isn't a good
idea at all.

The playerbase has been split into realms since the beginning and it worked perfectly well. Also I don't necessarily see a reason to split console players into their own realm, since there really isn't direct competition between players anymore. You queue into LFG/LFR/whatever, and then you essentially solo and get your own rewards. The disadvantage would be in top level PvP and mythic/organized raiding, but people who like that kind of gameplay will already be playing on PCs anyway.

Also, how is it bad business? It's a computer game, and it even runs on Macs; it's no
different than a console exclusive game. Most people's hunk of junk laptops these days
could even run WoW.

It's bad business because console gamers are a huge market. And it's a huge casual market, which is what Blizzard has been going after hard for years now. From purely business perspective WoW is a big chunk of ATVI profits, i.e., share price, and they cannot let it fall indefinitely when they don't have a replacement for it coming up since Titan was scrapped. They have to make WoW generate more revenues, that's just the business reality. They've tried everything they can on the PC, outside of going f2p, so it makes perfect sense to try to grab players from the massive console market that they've completely ignored with WoW so far.

[Grizzelbar]

Blizzard answered the question of WoW and consoles already..they said "No."

Well they also say that they do not have enough resources for pvp mounts. Consoles are incoming, why do you think they are reducing number of skills and making it possible to play by mashing fewer buttons?

[Mouri Kogorou]

If they make a joy pad with twice as much buttons, it would still not work fow wow. Diablo is hack&slash, and has 6 total buttons you press while fighting.

when will people understand you can connect a keyboard and a mouse to consoles ?

[Deleted]

when will people understand you can connect a keyboard and a mouse to consoles ?

When will people understand that nobody does that.

[Mouri Kogorou]

When will people understand that nobody does that.

does not mean you can't.

[Deleted]

does not mean you can't.

But does mean that if you wish to sell a significant number of copies you need to make sure that the game plays well with gamepad only.

[HoopyFrood]

But does mean that if you wish to sell a significant number of copies you need to make sure that the game plays well with gamepad only.

Dirty Klingon Logic, you probably tried to play with a Bat'leth when someone talked about Razer products.

It makes me wonder if there will ever be an officially supported keyboard and mouse for games on the PS4/X1. Even if they were pack ins with "Console WoW" how would it impact all of the FPS's?

If I may tinfoil, I wouldn't be too surprised to see a "Warcraft" spinoff on consoles that resembles the instancing/progression of Monster Hunter while trying to retain the trinity. FF14's classic MMORPG and Destiny's MMO-lite qualities are gonna be great measures on what is possible on consoles.

Oh and Duras muthafukka!

[Mirishka]

Well they also say that they do not have enough resources for pvp mounts. Consoles are incoming, why do you think they are reducing number of skills and making it possible to play by mashing fewer buttons?

The game is not coming to consoles. Ever.

If you want to keep telling yourself otherwise in some delusional act of hope, though, go right ahead.

[swiftysarge]

the denial in this thread is strong.just because YOU don't think its possible doesn't mean THEY don't think its possible.as for them saying no, they've lied so much over the last 10 yrs its pratically a dam language.

[Darsithis]

the denial in this thread is strong.just because YOU don't think its possible doesn't mean THEY don't think its possible.as for them saying no, they've lied so much over the last 10 yrs its pratically a dam language.

That's not even remotely true. I take it you think everyone who changes their mind is a liar?