Will we ever move past the petty shit?

[spinner981]

I'm not saying the guy wasn't intelligent, just that morally, he was an asshole.

Hindsight is 20/20. Most people who change the world are eventually viewed as such for one reason or another.

Example A - See below

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[Theinquisition]

Hindsight is 20/20. Most people who change the world are eventually viewed as such for one reason or another.

Example A - See below

I suppose, not everyone can be as awesome as the inventor of viagra

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Petty shit is pretty much all that motivates me.

[spinner981]

I find it strange though, that mankind can be classified as evil and wrong. Are we not natural beings? When did hostility become unnatural or evil in nature? Isn't that what the idea of natural selection and even evolution rely upon? So what is wrong with hostility other than what your opinion says about it? According to nature that is.

Is there some inherent source of ultimate truth that we can draw from that tells us certain things are evil? Nope, well that is if you don't count the Bible. So I don't see how you can make definitive claims that humans are or can be evil without a source telling you these things. If you are going to rely on nature, then do so, but hostility and contrariety are not unnatural nor work against nature.

[Gestopft]

Yeah, that's called being a human being. Mother Teresa isn't the average human behavior.

And she wasn't even as good as she's made out to be.

Petty to one may be personal to another. Also stubbornness, testosterone, ego, etc.

No, we probably won't ever get over it.

[Tradewind]

If arguments over petty shit were to suddenly disappear the internet would become boring again.

[sugarlily]

How could anyone take the side of Edison?

/agreed

http://theoatmeal.com/comics/tesla



OT; *comfort OP. Sometimes I am so horrified & disgusted by human beings I feel an odd & overwhelming embarrassment to be one. What some ppl can be capable of is partly responsible for making me have to quit in Pet Rescue work (although my health was really the nail in that coffin).

And sometimes I am so moved & elated & feel honored to be human b/c of what other ppl are capable of.

I hope that the fact that we realize we aren't being our best, aren't treating each other or creatures with the best intentions is enough to mean that we aren't completely lost & fucked up conclusively. Its sad when ppl can't have different opinions w/out an argument. Why is it impossible for some ppl to just listen to another POV instead of taking it as a personal affront or as a blow to their sense of self & life standards. Having a different belief doesn't mean I think you're stupid for yours.

But then again, I think some ppl DO think that way & so they assume that others must be thinking that way too & then the disgusting, brutal vitriol starts to flow & it becomes a one-upmanship pissing contest for the ages b/c ppl, even women, just gotta assert their dick is bigger & more important. Or something equally stupid & small-minded that ends up ruining friendships, Families, fuck, even countries that were good w/ each other become hate filled enemies.

I also hope there are a few more good ppl than shitheads, but there are days I doubt it. Fuck ppl who need to badly to be "right". Have your opinions. Be open to hearing new info. Be willing to learn & to realize that your POV may not be right all the time, & that doesn't make you wrong or small or worthless & defensive, it just means you haven't learned everything yet.

btw, best of luck with your buddies & their issue. I hope they come to their senses that -Edison was a fucktard- trying to force each other to either drop their beliefs or prove the other wrong & devolve into a couple of shit-throwing apes it isn't as important as friendship & being a decent bro.

[Flalia4]

Yeah, that's called being a human being. Mother Teresa isn't the average human behavior.

Go watch Penn and Tellers Bullshit episode about her. Apparently Mother Teresa wasn't as good as she's portrayed.

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Yeah, that's called being a human being. Mother Teresa isn't the average human behavior.

As other people have mentioned, she was actually a pretty awful person. She just got highlighted for basically a vatican publicity campaign so everythign she did wrong was erased and everything she did right was blown out of proportion. Even the miracles attributed to her have been proven to not be miracles, but the vatican won't have any of it because they are a requirement for sainthood or something.

[Slant]

I truly hope humanity as a whole can move past this stupid shit, and come together. But I fucking doubt it, it's such a shame too. Humanity can do so much good, but we have to get past the petty shit we fight over. I can't help but feel that all debate is just thrown out the the window, so little reason and simple courtesy exist when someone tries to have a friendly debate.

It's a damn shame folks just can't try to talk anymore. I had to break up a fight between two dear friends tonight when they were talking about the tesla vs edison debate. They came to blows.. called each other some of the most horrible, disgusting shit, wished cancer and death to family. It got brutal, quick. Both guys were stone cold sober, and I've been all evening trying to figure out what happened to us as a people. I see a lot of it going on in some issues. No real discussion, insults are levied 5 minutes in.

Have we devolved into shit slinging apes??


(Yes, i'm fucked up believe belief, and this post is a bit disjointed) I don't think that changes the validity of the question

Are you sure those blows are just because of that debate? Is it possible there is an underlying thing and you're just not aware of it? Could it be that they just found a catalyst to simply blow off some steam that is completely unrelated to the debate itself?

[breadisfunny]

life would be boring if everyone agreed with each other.

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[Zephyr Storm]

No, we will never move past the petty shit, when just about every day you hear about some new attack by an Islamic terrorist group. They are the perfect example of why humanity still can't get along, even to this day. It's ok to have different opinions and even argue them, but when it resorts to you killing someone simply because they don't believe what you believe.....do I need to say more?

[Deleted]

No, we will never move past the petty shit, when just about every day you hear about some new attack by an Islamic terrorist group. They are the perfect example of why humanity still can't get along, even to this day. It's ok to have different opinions and even argue them, but when it resorts to you killing someone simply because they don't believe what you believe.....do I need to say more?

They could stop making such a fuss about their beliefs or we about dying. Either way the problem would disappear and aren't we supposed to be the more mature side?

[Deleted]

How could anyone take the side of Edison?

I take the side of Edison because his inventions worked, while Tesla spent substanial amounts of time on esoteric concepts that fundamentally can't work. Which didn't stop him from claiming they worked.

[Kurioxan]

Yeah, that's called being a human being. Mother Teresa isn't the average human behavior.

Actually, no, mother teresa is the very average human behaviour.
She was a vapid bitch that kept thousands in poverty and suffering because she thought that suffering was the way to reach communion with "the lord".
She was not a good person, at all, and caused immense suffering that could have been avoided otherwise, there are plenty of documentaries out there trying to dispell the mythos created around her being a gentle and kind soul.

[GKLeatherCraft]

Humans are descended from apes. Just because we can use tools and look different doesn't mean we're not still fucking apes.

No they're not, Humans and apes both descended from the same ancestor, just took different evolutionary paths

[Deleted]

Only a small percentage of wars were caused by religion, and yes that does correlate to death count as well. With the number of religious wars being about 7% and the number of deaths caused by said wars totaling about 2% of total war deaths.

Some religions don't need to start conventional wars to be harmful. Just their mere existence in the society can be detrimental. Such as not being able to even speak freely just because some jerk thinks it offends his religion and threatens to blow up everyone. And then there are the "understanders" who come to... not to kick out the one who threatens to kill people, but to slander the one who dares to speak or do the right thing! "Don't say or think anything that might offend someone... so shut up about human rights, freedom of opinion or equality!"

And it's those people who are the reason we can't get past the petty shit even in our own countries.

[Leih]

As soon as a petty issue is solved, our bar for what we consider petty shifts. There will be always some issues plaguing us, and some of those issues will always be considered petty in relation to others.