Snowden 2.0

[wowaccounttom]

Alright. Your secrets are belong to us.


http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/05/politi...ker/index.html

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Site mentioned in article: https://firstlook.org/theintercept/

[Kujako]

I predict that it will be revealed that government agencies are doing the things we (meaning our representatives) said they could and in fact should do. Then we (still our representatives) will act shocked and outraged that they did the things we told them to do, combined with the old "but I didn't read the law I was signing" excuse.

[Sunseeker]

Underwear.
TIDE
Datamart.

Seriously?

What's next, Operation Fabric Softener?

Although...I suppose we are about to see more dirty laundry.

[Deleted]

Is your Government being secretly run by the cast of Monty Python?

[Deleted]

I predict that it will be revealed that government agencies are doing the things we (meaning our representatives) said they could and in fact should do. Then we (still our representatives) will act shocked and outraged that they did the things we told them to do, combined with the old "but I didn't read the law I was signing" excuse.

So when was the last time you voted to be actively spied and documented on, put on a terrorist list and god knows what other shit they do with this info. But judging by your post quality in general, I doubt you have any idea what common sense on such matters means.

[Schmeebs]

So when was the last time you voted to be actively spied and documented on, put on a terrorist list and god knows what other shit they do with this info. But judging by your post quality in general, I doubt you have any idea what common sense on such matters means.

I just read the article, and nothing seems that shady, they gather information on people, ahve lists of people, and some people are selected for extra scrutiny... seems reasonable to me but then again I'm not crazy.

[Deleted]

I just read the article, and nothing seems that shady, they gather information on people, ahve lists of people, and some people are selected for extra scrutiny... seems reasonable to me but then again I'm not crazy.

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

It's the principle of the matter. If you're fine with infringements of your privacy for your security, awesome. But no choice was ever given to the people.

[Orange Joe]

So when was the last time you voted to be actively spied and documented on, put on a terrorist list and god knows what other shit they do with this info. But judging by your post quality in general, I doubt you have any idea what common sense on such matters means.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriot_Act

[Blade Wolf]

Is your Government being secretly run by the cast of Monty Python?

That would explain all the SPAM, SPAM, SPAM!!!

[Annoying]

So when was the last time you voted to be actively spied and documented on, put on a terrorist list and god knows what other shit they do with this info. But judging by your post quality in general, I doubt you have any idea what common sense on such matters means.

You imply that we're a democracy. When's the last time you voted for *any* federal issue?
It's a republic. We voted people in to office that we thought had our best interests in mind, and they turned around and stabbed everyone in the back for some loose change.

[bufferunderrun]

why they never leak something juicy about area 51? Always this nsa crap .

[GennGreymane]

why they never leak something juicy about area 51? Always this nsa crap .

Because its a distraction... from Aliens....

[Annoying]

why they never leak something juicy about area 51? Always this nsa crap .

Because the military tests that everyone still thinks were some alien crap aren't infringing on our rights. Leaking military research = espionage/treason. Leaking constitutional infringements = whistleblowing.

[Gumboy]

3.2 million "SCI" documents in that short of a time? Wow.

[PACOX]

You imply that we're a democracy. When's the last time you voted for *any* federal issue?
It's a republic. We voted people in to office that we thought had our best interests in minding , and they turned around and stabbed everyone in the back for some loose change.

But they tend to project the opinions of their supporters, otherwise they wouldn't have a job. People just like to point fingers at others than to take up their part of the responsibility. Internet culture has shown that when it actually doesn't want to something to pass then it won't pass.

People wanted wanted the Patriot Act. Some people were to dumb to know what they wanted, some are delusional, others know exactly what it meant.

Snowden hasn't released anything that people should be surprised by. Hell, he signed up for the job, did he not research it before he applied? Taking a job at the NSA isn't like taking a job at Geek Squad.

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why they never leak something juicy about area 51? Always this nsa crap .

Yeah, we're is the actual cool stuff. I bet we stopped going to the moon because we actually beat Russia in a super secret space war with layers and mini Death Stars. Yeah, we suddenly stopped extraplanetary space exploration after the Moon, like the public is that dumb to believe such a half assed excuse.

[ringpriest]

Is your Government being secretly run by the cast of Monty Python?

We should be so lucky.

And on a more serious note, I wonder if a particular piece of blazing stupidity by old Gen. Alexander last year could have helped motivate a putative second leaker: NSA to cut system administrators by 90 percent to limit data access. According the General himself, "What we're in the process of doing - not fast enough - is reducing our system administrators by about 90 percent". In other words, the NSA was telling people with high-level clearances that they were going to be fired (sorry, "laid off") in the immediate future, while they still had full access. I've worked in IT for quite a while now, and you don't tell anyone they're getting fired without limiting the damage they can do.

Either way, yet more evidence that in addition to being actively harmful, the NSA is also incompetent.

[cubby]

Just so we're all clear, Snowden is a 100% traitor.

[Masark]

Just so we're all clear, Snowden is a 100% traitor.

If Snowden is a traitor, what is your word for US Citizens who spy on the US Government?

[cubby]

If Snowden is a traitor, what is your word for US Citizens who spy on the US Government?

There is no "if" about his status. And if that is all he did, it would be a different situation, wouldn't it?

[Masark]

There is no "if" about his status. And if that is all he did, it would be a different situation, wouldn't it?

You missed my question. Are US Citizens who spy on the US Government traitors?