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    Just got blamed for a wipe everbloom CM doing 42k HPS...

    No more premade finder for me, LF guild lol.

    FORTY TWO THOUSAND hps during 2nd boss of everbloom CM, we wipe i get blamed and grp disbands. I just had to post this on a forum lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fascinate View Post
    No more premade finder for me, LF guild lol.

    FORTY TWO THOUSAND hps during 2nd boss of everbloom CM, we wipe i get blamed and grp disbands. I just had to post this on a forum lol.
    It's very possible. If you have no other class that can do it (and even if you do, you should be trying to do it quicker), you'll be expected to purge off the thorns debuff on the boss. The only way you could reach 42K hps on the fight is if that thing sits on for it's entire duration, and people kill themselves on the thorns. 1 hit on the boss with thorns up = 20-30K+ damage.

    TL;DR - if you hit 42k hps, you didn't purge, so yea, your fault.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dracodraco View Post
    It's very possible. If you have no other class that can do it (and even if you do, you should be trying to do it quicker), you'll be expected to purge off the thorns debuff on the boss. The only way you could reach 42K hps on the fight is if that thing sits on for it's entire duration, and people kill themselves on the thorns. 1 hit on the boss with thorns up = 20-30K+ damage.

    TL;DR - if you hit 42k hps, you didn't purge, so yea, your fault.
    Am I a bad person for hoping this is the case?
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    I feel ya, when i do 30k+ HPS and once we survive the pull or boss, people are like "Good tanking"...F me. They just dont get how easy their roles actually are compared to healing, can't even appreciate when they have a good healer, they can't even tell when they have a good healer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firatha View Post
    Am I a bad person for hoping this is the case?
    Off the top of my head, hunter tranq shot, shaman purge, priest offensive dispell magic, mage spellsteal glyphed shield slam and glyphed icy touch can remove the effect. The last two are very, very unreliable as they require you to sit on CDs (shield slam or frost runes) to be able to instantly dispell. Tranq shot is a bit of the same, but it's much easier to make sure to always pool 20 focus.

    Realistically, unless the group had a hunter, shaman, mage or spriest dps, this is what happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fascinate View Post
    No more premade finder for me, LF guild lol.

    FORTY TWO THOUSAND hps during 2nd boss of everbloom CM, we wipe i get blamed and grp disbands. I just had to post this on a forum lol.
    Spam healing the tank and letting the dps die will also make you reach 42k HPS... That number means nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fascinate View Post
    No more premade finder for me, LF guild lol.

    FORTY TWO THOUSAND hps during 2nd boss of everbloom CM, we wipe i get blamed and grp disbands. I just had to post this on a forum lol.
    Spam healing the tank and letting the dps die will also make you reach 42k HPS... That number means nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaxJr View Post
    I feel ya, when i do 30k+ HPS and once we survive the pull or boss, people are like "Good tanking"...F me. They just dont get how easy their roles actually are compared to healing, can't even appreciate when they have a good healer, they can't even tell when they have a good healer.
    Well to be fair I expect my healer to be good just as I expect my DPS or tank to be good. Though in some cases I'll think "how the hell did we live through that?" quite often. Sometimes people just want a scapegoat because some people can't ever be to blame themselves. I've yet to see a healer do anywhere near 40k or 30k healing myself, but then again I don't run challenge modes with idiots who don't understand mechanics.

    Mage can also spellsteal it as well. I'm assuming it has to do with no interrupts/dispel/standing in vines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amerissis View Post
    Spam healing the tank and letting the dps die will also make you reach 42k HPS... That number means nothing.

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    Spam healing the tank and letting the dps die will also make you reach 42k HPS... That number means nothing.
    Well, it wouldn't. The tank has to take 42K damage per second for that to be true <.<.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dracodraco View Post
    It's very possible. If you have no other class that can do it (and even if you do, you should be trying to do it quicker), you'll be expected to purge off the thorns debuff on the boss. The only way you could reach 42K hps on the fight is if that thing sits on for it's entire duration, and people kill themselves on the thorns. 1 hit on the boss with thorns up = 20-30K+ damage.

    TL;DR - if you hit 42k hps, you didn't purge, so yea, your fault.
    The big guy also charges people not in melee range and leaves a nasty bleed on those he charges. Not saying that was all of it, but that can also be part of the reason so much damage was going out needing to be healed.
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    No a mage was on dispel duty. I like how i am getting attacked, wtf lol?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fascinate View Post
    No a mage was on dispel duty. I like how i am getting attacked, wtf lol?

    You're getting attacked because the obvious answer is that you fucked up by not dispelling, as that's something very few healers bother to do (interrupts aswell). Either way, you could have gone beyond and actually been a good player and dispelled the debuff - one global to prevent everyone from taking 20-30K dmg every other second is well worth it, compared to one 50K shield.

    Quote Originally Posted by Doomchicken View Post
    The big guy also charges people not in melee range and leaves a nasty bleed on those he charges. Not saying that was all of it, but that can also be part of the reason so much damage was going out needing to be healed.
    That's normal damage, though. If that was the case, I'd be at 40K everytime I did that boss. I'm not. I'm at 25K or so.
    Last edited by Dracodraco; 2014-11-27 at 07:09 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fascinate View Post
    I like how i am getting attacked, wtf lol?

    Because you're the guy who looks at HPS and thinks it's everything. Fail.

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    Next grp i got one shot it, now were on the mage chick. Ya, wasnt me even a little bit.

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    HPS never has and never will be the indication of a good healer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fascinate View Post
    Next grp i got one shot it, now were on the mage chick. Ya, wasnt me even a little bit.
    And you're also the guy who refuses to take criticism and/or admit fault. Also fail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fascinate View Post
    Next grp i got one shot it, now were on the mage chick. Ya, wasnt me even a little bit.
    ...If the thorns debuff was left on the boss, it was still you. If you have the power to save the group, do it, instead of kick and whine that things went bad because you couldn't be bothered playing properly. I mean, that's like if someone was assigned to do the engineers on Garrosh, and they forgot and you saw they forgot, and you had the ability to go there and oneshot it, but you chose not to and instead wiped. Why would you ever prefer the wipe?

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    Even if it wasn't your fault, don't rely entirely on your HPS to support your case.

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    K i clearly get no sympathy from these forums, will not post this stuff again lol.

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