Has the Alliance done anything bad in the Lore?

[Lotus Victoria]

Greetings my beautiful people from Azeroth!
So! I'm willing to make some videos about the horde and the Alliance, about their lore and things like that, and I'm willing to know the answers from the following questions:

Has the alliance done something bad for the Horde without "good reasons"?
Besides Daelin Proudmoore, the Alliance has or had some other "scumbag"?

It's easy to see the bad things about the Horde (Orcs and Undeads are full of negative things in their lores ) but doing the same with the Alliance is kinda hard.

I'm counting on you people!
Thanks!

- Momentanius

[Jaspias]

well there was dalaran, camp taurajo, the goblin ship...

[Deleted]

It depends on perspective, imo, really. For example the Alliance have on some occations avoided to use artillery when it would be wise. If you look at the Lordaeron conflict there were commanders sending in farmers and front-line soldiers, using militiamen as cannonfodder against the Forsaken.

In a struggle for Pyrewood the 7th Legion sent in other races to assassinate and subsequently get assassinated back in order to not have humans be killed and raised.

The orcs prefer to charge headlong in, the Forsaken choose to use Blight artillery, the Alliance seems to swap inbetween them at times ( just using two known things as an example against the whole). I for one wouldn't consider it more benevolt to charge in and let people die when you can use covert tactics or artillery, which sometimes the Alliance does.

[Orby]

The orc interment camps was pretty bad!

[Littlepwny]

Daelin was a hero not a scumbag from the Alliance PoV.

Garithos was a scumbag.

[Xeraxis]

Other than a member of the Alliance inviting the Horde to Azeroth only to make them slaves all after a race of the Alliance caused them to be subjugated by demons because they were two pussy to stop running and own up to what they had done? Other than that no nothing.

[Martymark]

If by bad you mean being willfully evil and knowing their actions were evil, it's pretty rare. The goblin intro where the SW army has been commanded to kill ANYONE they come across including civilians of nations they aren't at war against is probably the most blatantly evil sanctioned action.

http://youtu.be/S4Skbr0bEhA?t=47s

[Friendlyimmolation]

You have Blackmoore I think his name was, who abused and had sex with his secretaries' daughter or whatever, and wanted to train thrall to lead a army of orcs against the Alliance and take them over. You had Alliance nobels refusing to pay the would be known Defias Brotherhood for their work in rebuilding stormwind city. The next one is more of a stupid idea then a bad act, but building the highway from Theramore to the barrens was a pretty bad move.

[Zergy]

Daelin was a hero not a scumbag from the Alliance PoV.

And thanks to Garrosh, he was proven right.

[Friendlyimmolation]

And thanks to Garrosh, he was proven right.

I forgot that Garrosh and his men spoke for all of the orcs.

[Kharli]

Actully..yes the Alliance( not the Alliance of Lorderan, which is a different alliance.. ) have done bad things.
1. yes yes Camp Turajaho.. they used prisoners as soldiers, a retarded idea, but it was nesecary as the Alliance did not have any damn soldiers ready for battle in the barrens(Night elves locked in combat in ashenvale vs orcs, Draenei doing..who knows what, because there is like..one or two Draenei per 100 Humans <.<)

2. Dalaran Purge. While..not officially a act of the Alliance and something Varian actully..disliked it, but still, Alliance members undertook the purge.

well..that's the list I can come up with...that is what the Alliance(Humans, Dwarves, Gnomes, Night Elves, Draenei, Worgen) have done "evil".
3.oh..right War in Pandaria <.< destryoign the jade forest etc etc etc, enslaving pandaren, but equally..that was also the Horde's fault.

[uopayroll]

Stormwind and the Defias

[nonameelf]

The Alliance as a whole? No. Individual races? Yes.

[Xeraxis]

And thanks to Garrosh, he was proven right.

Or because of Daelin, Garrosh was justified in what he did.

[Matt0193]

The orc interment camps was pretty bad!

How so? The alternative was to put the bloodthirsty warmongering savages to the sword.

[Xeraxis]

How so? The alternative was to put the bloodthirsty warmongering savages to the sword.

Hmm what made them bloodthirsty? Oh that's right it was one of the Alliance races doing what it did best, running from the problems it created.

[Aucald]

- The internment camps and Aedelas Blackmoore's terrible mismanagement of them (brutal conditions leading to an inevitable loss of containment).

- Garithos, although his actions weren't against the Horde as Silvermoon and the Blood Elves were still part of the Alliance at the time.

- The razing of Camp Taurajo, a majority civilian soft target (disputed somewhat in "Tides of War" as to the exactly nature of Taurajo as a military target).

- The Purge of Dalaran: Jaina swings wildly pro-Alliance and purges all Sunreavers based on the action of one traitor within their ranks. Many innocent Sunreavers die in the resulting turmoil, mostly victims of Vareesa's rage at the loss of her husband.

- Daelin Proudmoore's actions against Thrall's nascent "New Horde" and his unwillingness to allow the Orcs even a chance for peace under new leadership and a new direction on a new continent.

[Kharli]

- The internment camps and Aedelas Blackmoore's terrible mismanagement of them (brutal conditions leading to an inevitable loss of containment).

- Garithos, although his actions weren't against the Horde as Silvermoon and the Blood Elves were still part of the Alliance at the time.

- The razing of Camp Taurajo, a majority civilian soft target (disputed somewhat in "Tides of War" as to the exactly nature of Taurajo as a military target).

- The Purge of Dalaran: Jaina swings wildly pro-Alliance and purges all Sunreavers based on the action of one traitor within their ranks. Many innocent Sunreavers die in the resulting turmoil, mostly victims of Vareesa's rage at the loss of her husband.

- Daelin Proudmoore's actions against Thrall's nascent "New Horde" and his unwillingness to allow the Orcs even a chance for peace under new leadership and a new direction on a new continent.

some of these points like Garithos, interment camps etc. I never took thoes up, because, at least in my eyes the Alliance of Lorderan is a diffrent 'Alliance' from the Current Grand Alliance. yes the original races are still in it (Dwarves, humans, high elves +/- gnomes), since the kingdoms splitered aftewards (gilneas refusing to pay for the interment camps etc) leaving in essence only Lorderan to maintain the interment camps.

Meanwhile on the Horde side, Doomhammer, GAVE THRALL the Title Warchief. it's the same horde but with a new warchief. yes..thrall had some delusional ideas about what the "horde" was.

[KrazyK923]

- The internment camps and Aedelas Blackmoore's terrible mismanagement of them (brutal conditions leading to an inevitable loss of containment).

- Garithos, although his actions weren't against the Horde as Silvermoon and the Blood Elves were still part of the Alliance at the time.

- The razing of Camp Taurajo, a majority civilian soft target (disputed somewhat in "Tides of War" as to the exactly nature of Taurajo as a military target).

- The Purge of Dalaran: Jaina swings wildly pro-Alliance and purges all Sunreavers based on the action of one traitor within their ranks. Many innocent Sunreavers die in the resulting turmoil, mostly victims of Vareesa's rage at the loss of her husband.

- Daelin Proudmoore's actions against Thrall's nascent "New Horde" and his unwillingness to allow the Orcs even a chance for peace under new leadership and a new direction on a new continent.

Except for Taurajo and Dalaran, which are far more nuanced than you're indicating here, I agree. Then again, Admiral Proudmoore wasn't acting as an Alliance member at that point. Hell, Kul Tiras wasn't even part of the Alliance of Lordaeron (Which was basically defunct at this point) anymore.

[Jaspias]

Stormwind and the Defias

that was onyxia. but the alliance did let it happen. not evil, just stupid.