[Movie] Warcraft (June 2016)

[Deleted]

What do you guys think that people will be most surprised about? I think it will be the death of a certain character...

The humans losing, of course.

[Archon14]

GIEVE!!

Dam it would be awesome to see Arthas and how he turns to Lich king in a movie...

Patience people, Varian and Arthas are little kids in this movie.

[Soulwind]

Patience people, Varian and Arthas are little kids in this movie.

Who do meet and grow together after Stormwind is destroyed.

It's a very simple after credits scene, and, similarly to what Marvel does, only fans will get it.

[AndaliteBandit]

Patience people, Varian and Arthas are little kids in this movie.

But I want to see chibi Arthas offer to take chibi Varian to meet chibi Invincible. /whine

Kinda want to reread that novel now.

[Archon14]

It's a very simple after credits scene, and, similarly to what Marvel does, only fans will get it.

It would be nice I agree, and the general public would realize why it was a great bonus when they see the story unfold in the sequels. Speaking of stuff made only for fans, I want them to show leeroy (like many others), but I want them to show him in his own timeline. If we have to wait a decade for that, then so be it.

[Wikiy]

The fact that humans lose the war and Stormwind gets razed. I mean, how often do you see a downer ending in a high fantasy movie?

I'm beginning to think the movie wont end at this obvious part. The latest "trailer" has a second or two of this (blurry because it's very mobile):



Now, I don't know of any snowy regions in southern EK besides Khaz Modan. And we already saw that dwarf. Point is, seems like this movie will contain at least the prelude of the Second War, if not even the beginnings of it, and, who knows, maybe even the whole first half. Which would make some sense if they're aiming for a trilogy, where the third movie would focus on Arthas. There's a lot to cover between the ending of the First War and the beginning of the Third War, more than what might fit in just one movie.

But that's just me speculating.

My god, I'm starting to be worried. The First and Second War stories are something you can contain in 2-hour movies. But, Warcraft 3? Jesus, there are so many interesting and different stories and characters there that I can't even see it compressed in one or two movies. Plus, I worry that the format of a movie won't really give people enough time to get attached to Arthas and his whole persona and then be surprised when he betrays Uther (well, okay, it wasn't exactly surprising, but it still is an interesting transition for a character) and releases the Lich King and whatnot. I donno, to me it seems like a random moviegoer wont really get attached to Arthas enough in the first 30-60 minutes to actually care when Arthas does that.

But that's a worry for the eventual and unsure future...

[AndaliteBandit]

It would be nice I agree, and the general public would realize why it was a great bonus when they see the story unfold in the sequels. Speaking of stuff made only for fans, I want them to show leeroy (like many others), but I want them to show him in his own timeline. If we have to wait a decade for that, then so be it.

It would be hilarious when they discover Kalimdor, and you see a trail of zhevra and giraffe corpses leading to Hemet Nesingwary, already having a blast on the new continent.

[Zoaric]

But, Warcraft 3? Jesus, there are so many interesting and different stories and characters there that I can't even see it compressed in one or two movies. Plus, I worry that the format of a movie won't really give people enough time to get attached to Arthas and his whole persona and then be surprised when he betrays Uther (well, okay, it wasn't exactly surprising, but it still is an interesting transition for a character) and releases the Lich King and whatnot. I donno, to me it seems like a random moviegoer wont really get attached to Arthas enough in the first 30-60 minutes to actually care when Arthas does that.

I'm hoping that the Third War stuff will be split heavily. Make two non-Arthas
movies, and then make two Arthas movies- starting with him as a child, ending
with him freezing over on the Frozen Throne.

[Wikiy]

I'm hoping that the Third War stuff will be split heavily. Make two non-Arthas
movies, and then make two Arthas movies- starting with him as a child, ending
with him freezing over on the Frozen Throne.

I'm not sure there's enough story for so many movies. Which kind of makes my earlier statements seem contradictory... Eh, it's not that there's too much story, it's that the story of Warcraft 3 is by nature fragmented into more relatively unconnected parts, unlike the First and Second Wars. And you can't really make a movie which has one cast in the first half, and then a completely different cast in the second. Or if the focus shifts from one cast to another in the middle of the movie.

[Zulkhan]

I'm beginning to think the movie wont end at this obvious part. The latest "trailer" has a second or two of this (blurry because it's very mobile):



Now, I don't know of any snowy regions in southern EK besides Khaz Modan. And we already saw that dwarf. Point is, seems like this movie will contain at least the prelude of the Second War, if not even the beginnings of it, and, who knows, maybe even the whole first half. Which would make some sense if they're aiming for a trilogy, where the third movie would focus on Arthas. There's a lot to cover between the ending of the First War and the beginning of the Third War, more than what might fit in just one movie.

But that's just me speculating.

My god, I'm starting to be worried. The First and Second War stories are something you can contain in 2-hour movies. But, Warcraft 3? Jesus, there are so many interesting and different stories and characters there that I can't even see it compressed in one or two movies. Plus, I worry that the format of a movie won't really give people enough time to get attached to Arthas and his whole persona and then be surprised when he betrays Uther (well, okay, it wasn't exactly surprising, but it still is an interesting transition for a character) and releases the Lich King and whatnot. I donno, to me it seems like a random moviegoer wont really get attached to Arthas enough in the first 30-60 minutes to actually care when Arthas does that.

But that's a worry for the eventual and unsure future...

If they intend to make a trilogy Arthas can't just be part of it, the whole of WC3 simply can't. The First War had the least content and yet is likely taking the whole movie (I don't think we'll get more but a cliffhanger for the Second War) and the Second one was much more rich, let alone the Draenor expedition which sets in motion a very pivotal event for WC3 (the descent to madness of Ner'zhul, his capture by Kil'jaeden and transformation into Lich King) also providing a true sense of closure to the Humans vs Orcs story arc.

On the other hand, WC3 would need more than a mere movie to work and not feel rushed and half-assed. Arthas' and Thrall's backstories would probably need a whole movie to be shown in an impactful way and then two movies would be needed to cover WC3 itself. In other words, that's gonna require at least another trilogy, also considering that the stories will be surely altered for the movie adaptation, additional events, additional characters ecc.

[Soulwind]

I'm not sure there's enough story for so many movies. Which kind of makes my earlier statements seem contradictory... Eh, it's not that there's too much story, it's that the story of Warcraft 3 is by nature fragmented into more relatively unconnected parts, unlike the First and Second Wars. And you can't really make a movie which has one cast in the first half, and then a completely different cast in the second. Or if the focus shifts from one cast to another in the middle of the movie.

It's not like the writing of Warcraft 3 is perfect. They could turn each campaign into a proper story (a book, even) and make movies out of those.

[Arrowstormen]

No way they will end it beyond the razing of Stormwind, that's already a loooot of stuff to cover in two hours. Still afraid the movie will feel way too fast paced.

[Zoaric]

I'm not sure there's enough story for so many movies. Which kind of makes my earlier statements seem contradictory... Eh, it's not that there's too much story, it's that the story of Warcraft 3 is by nature fragmented into more relatively unconnected parts, unlike the First and Second Wars. And you can't really make a movie which has one cast in the first half, and then a completely different cast in the second. Or if the focus shifts from one cast to another in the middle of the movie.

Arthas needs either two films or one really long film.

[Arrowstormen]

Arthas needs either two films or one really long film.

You'd most likely have to do the campaigns in order, since the third part of Arthas' story makes little sense without knowing about Illidan and the Battle of Mount Hyjal.

[CthulhuFhtagn]

I'm beginning to think the movie wont end at this obvious part. The latest "trailer" has a second or two of this (blurry because it's very mobile):



Now, I don't know of any snowy regions in southern EK besides Khaz Modan. And we already saw that dwarf. Point is, seems like this movie will contain at least the prelude of the Second War, if not even the beginnings of it, and, who knows, maybe even the whole first half. Which would make some sense if they're aiming for a trilogy, where the third movie would focus on Arthas. There's a lot to cover between the ending of the First War and the beginning of the Third War, more than what might fit in just one movie.

But that's just me speculating.

My god, I'm starting to be worried. The First and Second War stories are something you can contain in 2-hour movies. But, Warcraft 3? Jesus, there are so many interesting and different stories and characters there that I can't even see it compressed in one or two movies. Plus, I worry that the format of a movie won't really give people enough time to get attached to Arthas and his whole persona and then be surprised when he betrays Uther (well, okay, it wasn't exactly surprising, but it still is an interesting transition for a character) and releases the Lich King and whatnot. I donno, to me it seems like a random moviegoer wont really get attached to Arthas enough in the first 30-60 minutes to actually care when Arthas does that.

But that's a worry for the eventual and unsure future...

Duncan said very clearly that the movie will work on it's own, so the movie has to end with razing of Stormwind and the refugees sailing to Lordaeron in order to be self-contained. It's also enough foreshadowing for the Second War without ending on a cliffhanger or being too open ended.

If there are sequels, the Second War and the Draenor expedition have plenty of material to fill two movies. Soulwind had a good concept of how they could work:

First half of the Second War for the sequel. The Alliance is born, the siege of Dalaran, dragon riders vs a flying city of mages. It ends with the Alliance pushing back and setting up the Draenor Expedition.

The battle at Blackrock Mountain and Beyond the Dark Portal for the final movie. Two armies fighting in a volcano while Draenor is being torn apart by thousands of portals. Gul'dan trips down the stairs and dies in the Tomb of Sargeras.

[Zoaric]

Duncan said very clearly that the movie will work on it's own, so the movie has to end with razing of Stormwind and the refugees sailing to Lordaeron in order to be self-contained. It's also enough foreshadowing for the Second War without ending on a cliffhanger or being too open ended.

If there are sequels, the Second War and the Draenor expedition have plenty of material to fill two movies. Soulwind had a good concept of how they could work:

And Kazinsky said they could tell the story of the Defias now if they wanted. That
means at the very least there needs to be enough damage to require tons of masons.

[Wikiy]

Duncan said very clearly that the movie will work on it's own, so the movie has to end with razing of Stormwind and the refugees sailing to Lordaeron in order to be self-contained. It's also enough foreshadowing for the Second War without ending on a cliffhanger or being too open ended.

That's a fair point. However, what, then, explains the orcs attacking someone in Khaz Modan?

[Zoaric]

A very "bitchy about everything" fanboy friend of mine just saw an early screening of WARCRAFT and came out praising it. That is good.

I know this guy. He's a straight shooter on this kind of stuff. This makes me excited.

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That's a fair point. However, what, then, explains the orcs attacking someone in Khaz Modan?

It's possible they moved the Seige of Ironforge.

[Deleted]

I actually have a theory about the snowy scene.

The orcs within it are all green and marching forward with quite a bit of vigor. What if it's from an ending montage where we see the green menace spreading, enveloping all those in war who refused to form the alliance?

Alternately, it might be a scouting party, and the reason why Lothar flies to Ironforge to have that conversation with the dwarf in the trailer.

[Noobie]

Did anyone see this? Not confirmed in any way ofc.

"So, from the guy who saw the screening, the movie was a solid 9. He's not a Warcraft fan in general and doesn't know the lore, so he was very surprised by the twists and turns (deaths) and thought it reminded him of GoT. Also, Anduin Lothar has a daughter, not a son."


Who could this be if its true? Jaina?


Source: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0803096/...0?ref_=tt_bd_1